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Re: Wright of Anston hall
« Reply #18 on: Friday 14 April 17 22:28 BST (UK) »
Ah yes those are indeed the people I am looking for thank you so much. I need to understand this family better during these generations I feel. We know they somehow connect to the Boucherett's and I would like to rule out that the connection doesn't lie this far back, since I haven't found an obvious more recent one (say with the Barne's). In the 18th century these Wrights also lived close to Shireoaks, the estate of Ayscoghe (the 1st) Boucherett's first cousin (son of Ayscoghe's mothers aunt Letitia Ayscough). Does anybody know whether there was also a daughter/sister named Mary Wright born between say 1720-40 and maybe a cousin or son/brother named James?

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Re: Wright of Anston hall
« Reply #19 on: Friday 14 April 17 22:35 BST (UK) »
The above Boucherett history is slightly wrong. The first Ayscoghe Boucherett was born in 1712 and his parents Matthew and Isabella married in 1708. This Ayscoghe had a son by the same name in 1755. His mother was a Mary White and I have not been able to find a marriage for his parents (long story) or been able to identify who she was. Mary White was either related to or close friends with a man named James Wright, who was still alive in 1788. Hence why I feel the connection lies here somehow. The main branches of later generations (through the daughters) were the Barne's (through the marriage with Mary Boucherett born in 1764 daughter of the first Ayscoghe Boucherett 1712-1789). and the Newdigate family of Arbury Hall through Maria Boucherett (daughter of the second Ayscoghe 1755-1815), who also don't seem to connect as far as I can tell.

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Re: Wright of Anston hall
« Reply #20 on: Friday 14 April 17 22:50 BST (UK) »
The Mary Boucherett who married Michael Barne in 1798 left a diary:

'Mrs. Beel has transcribed the diary of Mary Boucherett for 1791 kindly lent for the purpose by Mrs. Markham [...]

DIARY OF MARY BOUCHERETT
Mrs. C. Markham of Grantham has temporarily deposited two small
volumes which contain the diary for 1791 of M’ary, daughter of Ayscoghe
B.oucherett of North Willingham. This diary is probably ultimately
destined to join other Boucherett records deposited by Mrs. Markham’s
nephew, Lt. COI. M. St. J. Barne, at the Ipswich and East Suffolk
Record Office. Meanwhile a typescript copy has been made and will
remain in this office.

In The Boucherett Family Archives (The Lincolnshire Historian,
vol. 2 no. 3, 1955-6) Miss Jean Imray describes the records deposited
at Ipswich and givea some account of Mary Boucherett, her residence
at Toulouse, her numerous suiters and her marriage to Colonel Michael
Barne of Sotterley in 1798. The diary for 1791 covers the end of her
stay in France, her return to England and long tour in Scotland and
her return to Lincolnshire at the end of the year. It is a fascinating
record of card parties, visits, proposals of marriage and an aristocratic
social life which went on in Toulouse in 1791 as if this was the France
of the Old Regime rather than the Revolution. In the first few months
of the year she was the subject ,of thr’ee marriage negotiations, all of
them broken off. It is not surprising that she writes plaintively on April 7th,
“I think I have had enough of marriages how oddly they settle
these matters in Franc,e “, and says of one of the proposed husbands,
“ I do not care a farthing about him I am convinced he is very stupid
he eats like a horse and is as fat as a pig ” (Feb. 3rd). Her return
from France did not result in any greater happiness. The Scottish tour
produced two more highly unsuitable offers of marriage, more card
parties lasting into the early hours of the morning, whi’ch she disliked,
and agonies ,of tootha’che. In Lincolnshire, too, she found that old
acquaintances did not express the joy they should have done at her
return; they were ” bien malhonetes et bien ma1 ClevCs ” .(zg Nov.)
She seems heartily to have wished herself back in France.

As may be seen from the extracts quoted, Mary Boucherett did not
approve of punctuation. Her sentences tumble headlong forward
without benefit of full stops or capitals. This appears also to reflect
her conversation: twice she records rebukes for talking too much (April
4th “ Mrs. Mackenzie told me not to talk so much that Mr. Due Prat
had asked the evening before if all the english young women talked so
much “). It is this very haste and spontaneity in her character which
gives th.e diary its value as evidence of the social life of the period.'

https://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/551/report16.pdf

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Re: Wright of Anston hall
« Reply #21 on: Friday 14 April 17 22:59 BST (UK) »
Yes the diary is an interesting read. The actual diary is no longer deposited, but I have viewed the transcript and it is an excellent read showing how much fun one could have in life when one had money.


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Re: Wright of Anston hall
« Reply #22 on: Friday 14 April 17 23:04 BST (UK) »
Mary Boucherett (Barne) had 2 children, who had the following issue, none of which appear to connect to Charles wright (1852-1926). Mary did though leave some amazingly interesting letters, but none that shed light.
Mary’s first child Emilia Mary was born at North Willingham on 24.9.1799. This Emilia married on 22 May 1839 to General Sir Edward Bowater of Hampton Court. She died at Thatched House Lodge, Richmond Park, aged 92, on 25 March 1892. Her daughter Louisa Mary (1842-1913) reputedly married Rainald Knightley 3rd Baron Fawsley (1819–1895).!
Mary gave birth to her second son Frederick on 8.11.1801 at North Willingham. He was baptised on 26.11.1801. Frederick Barne had children: Edith (1844-64), Alice Mary Honeywood Barne (1834-1849), Philip Julius Honeywood Ayscoghe Barne (1843-1917 Isle of Bute, had several children) and Frederick St John Newdigate Barne (1841-1898, had children). Frederick was member of Parliament for Dunwich, 1830-32.

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« Reply #23 on: Friday 14 April 17 23:07 BST (UK) »
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The above Boucherett history is slightly wrong. The first Ayscoghe Boucherett was born in 1712 and his parents Matthew and Isabella married in 1708. This Ayscoghe had a son by the same name in 1755. His mother was a Mary White and I have not been able to find a marriage for his parents (long story) or been able to identify who she was. Mary White was either related to or close friends with a man named James Wright, who was still alive in 1788. Hence why I feel the connection lies here somehow. The main branches of later generations (through the daughters) were the Barne's (through the marriage with Mary Boucherett born in 1764 daughter of the first Ayscoghe Boucherett 1712-1789). and the Newdigate family of Arbury Hall through Maria Boucherett (daughter of the second Ayscoghe 1755-1815), who also don't seem to connect as far as I can tell.

Sorry, didn't see your replies until now :) Yes, I noticed that something was off. That was very clarifying, thank you :)

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Re: Wright of Anston hall
« Reply #24 on: Friday 14 April 17 23:27 BST (UK) »
The link below tells us mostly what we already now, but at least we now know that Robert Wright (1759-1831) dies in 1831 and his wife Elizabeth Staveley (1760-1834) dies in 1834.

The Robert Wright who dies about or before 1800 mentioned at the records of National Archives is therefore likely this Robert's father and the Robert Wright who marries Elizabeth Ibbordson.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jyw/


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Re: Wright of Anston hall
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 15 April 17 00:54 BST (UK) »
This is is from MyHeritage, and probably means nothing. Just thought it was interesting.

Mary Ayscough (born Harbord), died 1715
Mary Ayscough was born to William Harbord and Mary Duck.
Mary had 2 sisters: Margaret King and one other sibling.
Mary married Edward Ayscough.
They had 6 children: Isabella Boucherett, Margaret Ayscough and 4 other children.
Mary passed away on month day 1715.
She was buried at burial place.

Mary Songer (born Harbord), 1779 - 1860
Mary Songer (born Harbord) was born in 1779, at birth place, to Jacob HARBORD and Ann HARBORD (born WRIGHT).
Jacob was born in 1757, in Stoke By Nayland, Suffolk, England.
Ann was born in England.
Mary married Thomas Songer in 1801, at age 22 at marriage place.
Thomas was born on June 20 1779, in Raydon, Suffolk, England.
They had 5 children: Jacob Songer, Emma Songer and 3 other children.
Mary lived in 1851, at address.
Mary passed away in month 1860, at age 81 at death place.

https://www.myheritage.com/names/mary_harbord

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Re: Wright of Anston hall
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 15 April 17 00:58 BST (UK) »

Could you please give us your basic information, and source (eg parish records), about your indirect 'aunt' ancestor Mary White/Wright.

There are now *two topics running about 'Mary' and it's getting confusing, especially with all the Burkes Peerage stuff thrown randomly into the mix as well

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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=769254.0