Author Topic: Johanna Cremin  (Read 9981 times)

Offline Sinann

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 10,848
    • View Profile
Re: Johanna Cremin
« Reply #54 on: Friday 21 April 17 22:07 BST (UK) »
Excellent, great find. Doesn't that feel great.
I know I kept on about it but now you can show step by step proof despite the father's name on the death cert.
So that's
James
John
Bridget
Delia

Thimothy, Mary and Nora are still unproven.

Tracing back that list of cousins in the Obit for Essie may lead back to more of John Foley's siblings, perhaps it can be used to prove some of the others as well. Some of them will probably be from the Fusz side of the family.

Offline foleygirl

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 34
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Johanna Cremin
« Reply #55 on: Friday 21 April 17 22:36 BST (UK) »
Yes, this entire experience has been great! You all have given me new areas to search and a head start on family. I'll work on the next child.
Thank you,
Foleygirl,
Trudy

Offline Sinann

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 10,848
    • View Profile
Re: Johanna Cremin
« Reply #56 on: Saturday 22 April 17 00:56 BST (UK) »
I wonder if this could be James' death, some of the detail isn't quite correct but it's close.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLY6-JM4

Offline foleygirl

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 34
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Johanna Cremin
« Reply #57 on: Saturday 22 April 17 01:55 BST (UK) »
Yes I'm sure this is my James Foley for this town wasn't that large back in his day. I can't go out to the Mountain View Cemetery until Monday, but I'll go out and find his grave as this document that you found shows him buried at the same graveyard as the other Foley family. Maybe I'll find more info on his headstone.
I had to laugh at the address where he lived for it's one block North and one block east of where John Foley and Johanna Cremin lived (they are my great grandparents). Later in years, John and Johanna sold the house to their son, Timothy Jeremiah and Mabel Fraser (my grandparents). James died way before I was born. It seems to be a pattern of this family working for the railroad.


Offline foleygirl

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 34
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Johanna Cremin
« Reply #58 on: Monday 24 April 17 18:41 BST (UK) »
For James Foley I found his daughter Mary's obit listing him as father and mother is Jane Cooney Foley which matches the death certificate that you had sent to me but gives his wife's name.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVS8-RJLM?from=lynx1&treeref=L71L-HZM

James birth info through same site and links him to Jeremiah Foley and Julia Loughnane. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRQX-K5T?from=lynx1&treeref=L71L-HZM

James Foley County Naturalization papers https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89HN-9V2Q?mode=g&cc=2078306

1910 Census shows James with wife and children.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRJB-LDS?mode=g&cc=1727033

So I went out to the Mountain View Cemetery to find his grave but did not find James Foley (the guy I was searching for) but found a James S. Foley. I walked up upon a 6 foot 'Foley' monument, (a long ways away from my Foley ancestors) to discover two names at the base which read, James S. Foley and Genevieve Foley and gave birth/death years. So in trying to locate his info online to link I was at a loss. I corresponded with the Delia Foley/Fusz family generations on ancestry to discover this outrageous story.
This James S. Foley is not actually a Foley but a Silver. Through Jeremiah and Julia Foley's child, Delia Foley who married a Fusz,....a great grandson through a child of Delia had married a Genevieve. He later abandoned her and ended up in Montana in which he somehow changed his last name from Silver to Foley which was his ggrandmother's maiden name. I wouldn't think you could do such a thing. So I decided not to go back that far as his story really messed up my family connections.

So as the rain came down heavy, I gave up on searching for my actual James Foley born 1871 and died 1935.  I will go back out tomorrow. When I tried to look him up through findagrave, he did not show up.



Offline Sinann

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 10,848
    • View Profile
Re: Johanna Cremin
« Reply #59 on: Monday 24 April 17 19:10 BST (UK) »
Wow you have been busy. I only got a chance to look at one year of the parish register, didn't find anything. I have a lot going on at the moment but I'll get back to it.

That's great, you have his wife and children.

The Silver/Foley chap sounds interesting but best left for the moment, too much of a distraction, just to say you can use any name you like as long as you are not doing so to defraud anyone, hide from the law and such like.

Offline Sinann

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 10,848
    • View Profile
Re: Johanna Cremin
« Reply #60 on: Tuesday 25 April 17 01:38 BST (UK) »
This Timothy looks interesting, he seems to be working on a dam.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRJB-FTW?mode=g&i=2&cc=1727033

Offline foleygirl

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 34
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Johanna Cremin
« Reply #61 on: Tuesday 25 April 17 02:29 BST (UK) »
So I did an ancestry search on Timothy Foley and found birth record so then I went to https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRSF-RTL and found his birth being 1863. So in figuring that the document you found, it stated his Naturalization papers were 1882 so he'd be 19 when coming to America (correct?). This is a match.

Offline foleygirl

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 34
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Johanna Cremin
« Reply #62 on: Tuesday 25 April 17 04:03 BST (UK) »
Sinann, when you gave me this Boherbue Parish registery, http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632556#page/10/mode/1up
referring to Timothy Foley,.....I could not find his birth in 1863. There was an area in which the writing was unreadable so I'm wondering if this is where he is entered. Did you find him at this site?

Also, I have a question. I sometimes find entries of Foley families on ancestry and family search and they make note that the info was found in the O'Kief, Coshe Mang, Slieve, Lougher, and Upper Blackwater in Ireland volumes (in which I'm familiar with) but then I can't find civil records or parish records at the Irish genealogy site that you've shared with me. If it's in the volumes wouldn't it come up at the civil records or Parish records? I've noticed this a lot when trying to send you all a link as I can't send through ancestry. The sites that you utilize for research have helped tremendously. I thank you again for your guidance.