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Thomas & Ann Crossley/Crosley 1861 census
« on: Sunday 16 April 17 04:36 BST (UK) »
Hello  :), I am hoping that somebody could do me a huge favor and have the time and patience to look up the folowing in the 1861 census:

Thomas Crossley/Crosley born between 1800 -1806, Leeds,  a cloth presser and his wife Ann Crossley/Crosley b 1813, Leeds.

I had believed that Thomas had died in january 1861, and therefore would not appear in the 1861 census, but I have just  found the burial record (Leeds General Cemetery) for his wife Ann, who died on the 6th march 1865 and is down as wife, not widow, presuming therefore that her husband Thomas was still alive at this time.

Looking up the burial record for the Thomas Crosley who died in january 1861 (also in Leeds Gen. Cemetery) I realised that it is a different Thomas (born 1786, different profesion, area and different parents).

My Thomas' wife Ann was born Ann Harrison, baptised on the 19th sept 1813, parents Edward and Sarah. In 1829 she married Joseph Giles (1811-1841) and on the 11 aug 1845, at St Peter's, Leeds she married Thomas Crossley, also a widow.

In 1851 Thomas and Ann are living in Holbeck, with Ann's mother Sarah Harrison.

In 1856 Ann Crossley is a witness at the trial for bigamy of her brother Henry Harrison b 1815 (the Wizard of Leeds) and she states 'My husband and I live in Canon Street. He is a cloth presser. And on her burial record in 1865 her abode is down as Canon Street. So presumably they were living in Canon street in 1861.
 
Also, on 29 June 1857 Thomas' daughter Ann  from his first marriage marries a Luther Smith and she gives Canon street as her abode, father Thomas, cloth presser.

There is a possible death for Thomas Crosley in jul/aug/sept 1870 but I have looked in Leeds General Cemetery and he doesn't appear, although his son, grandson and various family members are buried there.

I believe that Canon Street is in North leeds, in Leylands. If anyone could have a look I'd really apreciate it since I'm not subscribed to ancestry at this time.
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Anslow, Shropshire
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Halton, Clapham & Leeds
Hill, Tickhill, Yorkshire
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Re: Thomas & Ann Crossley/Crosley 1861 census
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 16 April 17 11:41 BST (UK) »
There's a burial at Beckett Street Cemetery which might match the death you've found:

Thomas Crossley, age 67, of St Luke Terrace, Press Setter, on 20 July 1870 (Grave No. 1907 Consecrated)

There are 17 others in the same grave, so it's unlikely to be a family plot. This information came from the Yorkshire Indexers site, which is very useful for those with Leeds interests.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Thomas & Ann Crossley/Crosley 1861 census
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 16 April 17 11:44 BST (UK) »
One part of Leeds census is missing in 1861  :-\
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Re: Thomas & Ann Crossley/Crosley 1861 census
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 16 April 17 12:12 BST (UK) »
A slightly different spelling, but there is a Cannon Street in North Leeds in 1861.  I can't see anyone by the name Crossley/Crosley, although there are a few gaps in the house numbering which could possibly explain it  :-\
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.


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Re: Thomas & Ann Crossley/Crosley 1861 census
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 16 April 17 12:33 BST (UK) »

 Hi....

 I saw this earlier but then discounted it however the burial listing says St Luke Terrace...so...

1861
RG9 P3380 F 32 PAGE 20
Thos Boshill     hd wid 48 cloth finisher
 Thos Crosland lodger m 57 cloth presser
 Anne Crosland lodger m 48                          all born Leeds Yorkshire

  I cannot read their address but next household is living at St Lukes Street.


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Re: Thomas & Ann Crossley/Crosley 1861 census
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 16 April 17 14:08 BST (UK) »
Address for Thomas Boshill household is Boshills Building(s) which appears to be in St Luke's Street, and on the same Enumerator walk as St Luke's Terrace.

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Re: Thomas & Ann Crossley/Crosley 1861 census
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 16 April 17 16:58 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for everyones interest and input. Sorry I took a while answering but I'm on a different time zone and I wanted to look up my notes.

In my research on the Crossleys I actually looked into  the Thomas and Ann Crosland who live on St Lukes Terrace in 1861. However I had believed that this was Thomas Crosland bapt. 20 may 1804 at Beeston, parents Joseph and Maria Crosland...but, I don't have him in any other censuses so I could very easily be wrong, and I can't find a marriage for him. But obviously the death in 1870 fits.

On Thomas's marriage to Ann Giles nee Harrison, his father's name is down as Samuel, stuff presser and the abodes on the baptisms of his elder children (Ebenezer Street) coincide with the abodes on the burial records of Samuel Crosley (16 jul 1820, St Peters) and Mary (nee Lonsdale)(27 Jul 1835, St Peters)  whom I 'supposed' to be his parents. Also Samuel is a very prominent name in the family all the way down to my father...and there are no Josephs.

It looks like I have to get back to the drawing board :-\   There are relevant gaps in both Thomas's which could very well mean they are one and the same.

The only thing that seems odd is that they were in Cannon Street in 1856 and 1857, then moved back to Beeston in 1861, and then in 1865 are back in Cannon Street when Ann dies.

Jomot: Yes, I looked at the transcript for the trial and it is actually spelt 'Cannon Street'. Thank you.

Thank you everyone for giving me a new outlook on this and for all your time.  :)
Crossley, Leeds
Skipsey, South Kilvington & Leeds
Frost, York, Leeds
Anslow, Shropshire
Wild, Leeds
Halton, Clapham & Leeds
Hill, Tickhill, Yorkshire
Thomas, Leeds
Edwards, Shropshire
Woolley, Leeds
Mountain- Kirkby Overblow
Camm- Bentham
Pybus- East Cowton

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Re: Thomas & Ann Crossley/Crosley 1861 census
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 18 April 17 04:21 BST (UK) »
Hi, just as a follow up.  Arthurk, tazzie and BumbleB, I think you were correct in your findings! 

On a closer look at Ann Crossley nee Harrison's death, the informant is H. Boshill !! Could this just be a coindence?
Crossley, Leeds
Skipsey, South Kilvington & Leeds
Frost, York, Leeds
Anslow, Shropshire
Wild, Leeds
Halton, Clapham & Leeds
Hill, Tickhill, Yorkshire
Thomas, Leeds
Edwards, Shropshire
Woolley, Leeds
Mountain- Kirkby Overblow
Camm- Bentham
Pybus- East Cowton

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Re: Thomas & Ann Crossley/Crosley 1861 census
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 18 April 17 13:45 BST (UK) »
On a closer look at Ann Crossley nee Harrison's death, the informant is H. Boshill !! Could this just be a coindence?

Maybe, maybe not. I don't think it's a particularly common surname in Yorkshire, but I may be wrong. As well as the name of the informant, a death certificate will normally give their qualification (this could be their relationship to the deceased, or something like "in attendance", or "present at the death" etc) and their address. Is there anything like that here?
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk