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Re: Gray family - Missing BMDs?
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 18 April 17 09:26 BST (UK) »


When Martin GRAY married Mary - they both signed the register with the names.

When 'zooming in' on Mary's writing - the surname starts with an F and the second letter looks like an  'a' as it joins the next letter 'w' and the bottom and not the 'top'.  Ancestry has transcribed the surname as FAWLAV as the signature trails off at the end.   ? is the surname FOWLER or FAWLER/FAWLES

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Re: Gray family - Missing BMDs?
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 18 April 17 09:37 BST (UK) »
It looks like Fowler to me ;D

And the GRO Indexes all show Fowler as the Mother's Maiden Name for the children'a Birth Registrations I can find.

Incidentally, the only Martin Gray I can find is one born 1808 and baptised at Medmenham, Buckinghamshire?
He can't be found on any census, and his age would fit the 1841 census?

It's not conclusive; but may be the right Martin? :-\
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Re: Gray family - Missing BMDs?
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 18 April 17 11:29 BST (UK) »
Marriage on Ancestry

Martin GRAY to Mary FOWLER 29 May 1834, Broadwell, Oxfordshire

witnesses:

(best guess)

Jos Raymond HENSBERGH  (James R HENSBERGH - on later census returns)
Elizabeth HENSBERGH



James Raymond Hensburgh widower married Elizabeth Franklin spinster at Oxford St Aldates on 7 Sep 1829. James is a gamekeeper on his sons Robert, Frederick and Matthew's baptism records. On 1871 census, the family is in Derbyshire, James is a huntsman and his son Matthew is a gamekeeper.
As Martin Gray was a male servant in 1841 and an Ostler on the baptism record of the two daughters, it may be that he and James Hensburgh were servants at the same big house - possibly Mary Fowler as well.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Gray family - Missing BMDs?
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 18 April 17 11:55 BST (UK) »

Incidentally, the only Martin Gray I can find is one born 1808 and baptised at Medmenham, Buckinghamshire?
He can't be found on any census, and his age would fit the 1841 census?


This Martin's parents were Mark and Maria, names that your Martin gave to his children. Mark was also the second name of his son John, so clearly an important name to him.
James raymond Hensbergh was from Hambledon only a couple of miles from Medmenham.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott


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Re: Gray family - Missing BMDs?
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 18 April 17 12:09 BST (UK) »
Mark Gray married Maria Lovelock in Hambledon on 15 Nov 1806

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mark was buried at medmenham in Dec 1808, only a few month's after martin's birth

He may be the one bapt in Medmenham on 2nd on 9th Feb 1777(depending on transcript) s/o Abraham and Mary.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Gray family - Missing BMDs?
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 18 April 17 12:23 BST (UK) »
I think Abraham married Mary Church in Medmenham on 5 oct 1767
and was buried there on 23 Mar 1826 age 81
possible bapt 19 Sep 1744 s/o Charles and Eleanor Gray
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Gray family - Missing BMDs?
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 18 April 17 12:40 BST (UK) »
??


There is a Tree on Ancestry

Maria GRAY - birth 1781, Buckinghamshire England
Death: April 1855, Horsemonger Lane Gaol, Bethnal Green, London

Husband : Daniel DAVIES 1779-1849

14 May 1822 aged 41 @ Hambleden, Buckinghamshire :  Birth of Son, Mark DAVIS (1779-1849) died July 1849, London Middlesex


Daniel DAVIES married Maria GRAY - 27 October 1798, Medmenham, Bucks



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Re: Gray family - Missing BMDs?
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 18 April 17 15:09 BST (UK) »
Could be related, but I can't find a baptism for Maria. She and Daniel had quite a lot of children, first one bapt at Medmenham, the others at Hambledon.  The first son is called Abraham.
In 1841 they are living in Hambledon with some of their children and Joseph and Emma who are probably grandchildren. Joseph and Emma are with their son Mark Davis in 1851 listed as nephew and niece. 
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Gray family - Missing BMDs?
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 29 April 17 16:53 BST (UK) »
Going back to Mary's time in Oxfordshire County Lunatic Asylum - to avoid confusing any future readers of this thread, I should have reiterated that the location was LITTLEMORE in Oxfordshire, not Littleworth which was in Berkshire until 1974.

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