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Offline AngelaC

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Holland/Scott - Prescot
« on: Monday 17 April 17 03:03 BST (UK) »
I have been asked by a friend to help her with her family tree and we've already hit a brick wall. James Holland married Hannah Scott in Prescot in 1880. They had a daughter, Sarah, a couple of years later.
Hannah would seem to have been born in Prescot in 1860 and there are two possible likely James Hollands born in Prescot, one in 1856 and the other in 1859.
We can find no more information on either of them - no parents' names and, more strangely, no censuses from 1881, 1891 or 1901. Can anybody help, please?
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Re: Holland/Scott - Prescot
« Reply #1 on: Monday 17 April 17 04:34 BST (UK) »
Hi have you the birth certificate of Sarah that gives Mothers maiden name of Scott, who did Sarah marry and when:-

There is a birth of a Sarah Holland March qtr 1882 Prescot mmn Bushell is this the year of birth of the Sarah you are looking for?

Oddly the Sarah above formed part of this family:-

1891 census:-
Hannah Holland 40 Widow
Thomas 19
Ellen 11
Sarah 9
Residing at Stockridge Lane, Huyton with Roby, Prescot
Census ref RG12/3009/39/1

June qtr 1868 Prescot 8b 872 has a James HULLAND marrying a Hannah Bushell?
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EDIT also the Joseph Frodsham on the same page 1880 Prescot married the Hannah Scott, they are living as a couple next door to a Scott family in 1881?

Possible death of James Holland September qtr 1886 Prescot 8b 478 aged 41
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Re: Holland/Scott - Prescot
« Reply #2 on: Monday 17 April 17 08:22 BST (UK) »
Is this the marriage you are referring to

Marriages Dec 1880   
Critchley    Mary Ann       
Frodsham    Joseph       
HOLLAND    James       
SCOTT    Hannah       
Prescot    8b   1081

LancashireBMD has James Holland as marrying Mary Ann Critchley  ???    
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Re: Holland/Scott - Prescot
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 18 April 17 10:25 BST (UK) »
Hi again, to add to the results given so far is this family in 1901, at same address as 1891, age of Hannah way out, 1911 still out but see what you think ( and more interesting)!

Henry Whitfield 40 Carter Brewers
Hannah 40
William 24
Residing at Stockridge Lane
Census ref RG13/3511/34/33
All born Huyton

Possible death Hannah Whitfield March qtr 1922 Prescot 8b 1109 aged 73 which is closer to the year of birth in 1891?

Marriage anyone to Henry?
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Re: Holland/Scott - Prescot
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 18 April 17 10:56 BST (UK) »
BAPTISMS;
HOLLAND;
JOHN, 15 Aug 1869 St Peter, Liverpool
WILLIAM, 16 Apr 1876 St Bartholomew, Roby, Liverpool
ELLEN, 25 Apr 1880 St Bartholomew, Roby, Liverpool
SARAH, 20 Jan 1882, St Mary the Virgin, Prescot
JAMES,  21 Nov 1886 St Bartholomew, Roby, Liverpool
All have Parents as JAMES/HANNAH
Fathers Occp Painter

All on LancsOPC
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Holland/Scott - Prescot
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 18 April 17 11:02 BST (UK) »
The Family in 1881;
James Holland, 37, Painter Journeyman, born Huyton
Hannah Holland, 32, born Huyton
John Holland, 12
Thomas Holland, 9
Emma Holland, 7
William Holland, 5
Ellen Holland, 1

Death Reg looks good that Keyboard86 found;
Burial: 7 Dec 1886 St Bartholomew, Roby, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
James Holland -
Age: 42
Abode: Roby Horn's Smithy
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Holland/Scott - Prescot
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 18 April 17 11:44 BST (UK) »
You are spot on Keyboard86,
Boy has Hannah shed some years.

In last Census available she is age 50, her Son William Holland 34 and a Bushell Nephew is in the Household also.

1891 William Holland is a Pupil at an Industrial School.

1901 we have;
Henry Whitfield,40
Hannah Whitfield, 40, born Huyton
William Whitfield, 24

I dont think Henry/Hannah ever married.
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Holland/Scott - Prescot
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 18 April 17 13:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks Trish :)

1871 census Horn Smithy, Huyton

Hannah Holland 21 Wife
John 1
They are living next door to:-

Thomas Bushell 57
Sarah 55
Robert 27 ( Father of Bushell Nephew in 1911)
James 23
Thomas 9
Census ref RG10/3856/48/10
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Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

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Re: Holland/Scott - Prescot
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 18 April 17 13:30 BST (UK) »
Sorry if this has already been posted  :-\

Marriages Dec qtr 1897   
Holland    Hannah       
WHITFIELD    Henry       
W. Derby    8b   546

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Henry WHITFIELD      
Hannah HOLLAND   
Edge Hill, St. Catherine   Liverpool
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