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Alec Emile KOEUNE
« on: Monday 17 April 17 04:32 BST (UK) »
Alec was born in Sussex in 1905. In the early 1930's he lived with the Anderson family , who in 1950 all came to Western Australia. It is believed he was a cosmetic chemist, In WA he was a farmer in Denmark ,WA.Until 1972 he was listed as Koeune on the electoral roll . He was buried as an Anderson. About to find out if this was a mistake. Would like to know more about his life in the UK if possible.
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Re: ALEC EMILE KOEUNE
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Re: ALEC EMILE KOEUNE
« Reply #2 on: Monday 17 April 17 09:23 BST (UK) »
His birth was registered in Sussex.

KOEUNE, ALEC  EMILE      mother's maiden name KOERNCHEN      

GRO Reference: 1905  M Quarter in STEYNING  Volume 02B  Page 265

His journey to Australia with the Anderson family and the address given was Bucks one, the same as the 1939 one found on the link by Johnf04.

Name:    Alec E Koeune
Gender:    Male
Age:    45
Birth Date:    abt 1905
Departure Date:    27 Oct 1950
Port of Departure:    Glasgow, Scotland
Destination Port:    Melbourne, Australia
Ship Name:    Dymas
Shipping line:    Blue Funnel Line
Official Number:    146292
Master:    H Andrews
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Re: ALEC EMILE KOEUNE
« Reply #3 on: Monday 17 April 17 12:09 BST (UK) »
Following on from John and Carol's finds...

GRO BMD references:

1897 Q3 Birth - Esther Koeune[1] (mmn: Kernchen); Brighton 2b 250
1905 Q1 Birth - Alec Emile Koeune (mmn: Koernchen); Steyning 2b 265
1910 Q2 Death - Jean Francois Koeune; age 74 (1836)   Steyning 2b 170
1911 Q1 Death - Henri E Koeune; age 19 (1892); Steyning 2b 210
1918 Q1 Marriage - Marie H Koeune & Eric A Dudeney; Brighton; 2b 625
1925 Q2 Death - Marie Catherine Koeune; age 58 (1867); Steyning 2b 331

[1] FreeBMD name is 'Koeune', GRO index name is 'Koune'


1901 Census
1 Addison Road, Hove, Sussex

Jean Francis Kaune; Head; 66 (1835) Belgium; Clergyman (French Church)
Marie C. Kaune; Wife; 33 (1868) Germany
H'lene Emilie Kaune; Daughter; 13 (1888) France
Henri Emilie Kaune; Son; 9 (1892) France
Marie Hen. Kaune; Daughter; 7 (1894) Suisse   
Esther Kaune; Daughter; 3 (1898) Brighton, Sussex
Margueritte Bodmer; Servant; 18 (1883) Suisse; Servant Domestic

Ref RG13; Piece 935; Folio 129; Page 7;

Search for the same family name in 1911 and you'll find them, along with Alec.


Electoral registers:

1901; Addison Road, Hove; Jean Francis Koeune
1908; 1 Addison Road, Hove; Jean Francois Koeune
1909; 1 Addison Road, Hove; Jean Francois Koeune
1918; 1 Addison Road, Hove; Helene Marie Koeune, Marie Catherine Koeune
1920; 1 Addison Road, Hove; Helene Marie Koeune, Marie Catherine Koeune
1923; 1 Addison Road, Hove; Helene Marie Koeune, Marie Catherine Koeune
1924; 1 Addison Road, Hove; Helene Marie Koeune, Marie Catherine Koeune
1925; 1 Addison Road, Hove; Helene Marie Koeune, Marie Catherine Koeune
1925; 1 Addison Road, Hove; Helene Marie Koeune
1926; 1 Addison Road, Hove; Helene Marie Koeune
1926; 1 Addison Road, Hove; Helene Marie Koeune, Alec Emile Koeune


Probate records:

Koeune, Jean Francois
of 1 Addison-road Hove
died 17 April 1910
Probate London 8 June
to Marie Catherine Koeune widow
Effects £728 14s 9d
Resworn £804 14s 9d

Koeune, Marie Catherine
of Chenogne Addison-road Hove Sussex
widow died 15 May 1925
Probate London 16 July
to Helene Marie Koeune spinster and Harry Gatland clerk
Effects £295 15s

Koeune, Helene Marie
of 1 Addison-road Hove Sussex
spinster died 11 February 1928
at St Mary's Hospital Paddington Middlesex
Adminstration London 10 March
to Marie Henriette Dudeney (wife of Eric Alvan Dudeney).
Effects £890 18s 5d


Directories:

1899 Kelly's; Koeune Rev. Jean Francois B.D., 26 Albert road, Brighton
1905 Kelly's; Koeune Rev. Jean Francis B.D. (French Reformed Church), 1 Addison Road, Hove
1909 Kelly's; Koeune Rev. Jean Francis B.D. (French Reformed Church), 1 Addison Road, Hove
1915 Kelly's; Koeune Madame, 1 Addison Road, Hove


There's also a few newspaper references to the family re. the church in Hove.
Anderson Banks Beard Brewer Caves Clarke Clinch Cooling Cuff Denton Gamble Gibson Gunn Hunt Mills Muncey Norris Notzke Reid Robinson Searle Smith Trundle Turner Weedon Wells Wilson


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Re: ALEC EMILE KOEUNE
« Reply #4 on: Monday 17 April 17 12:55 BST (UK) »
My goodness Cuffie,you have found a lot since I went shopping this morning  ;D

I wonder why they left from Glasgow,did it have anything to do with Harry Anderson being a dentist I wonder(lots of dental schools in Scotland)

I did find Alec(and the Anderson's) in the mid 1930's in Brookshill Harrow Weald,amazingly the same road as I was born and lived in for 20 years,but the posh end !!!

Carol
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« Reply #5 on: Monday 17 April 17 14:06 BST (UK) »
Marriages Jun 1905

Anderson    Henry Arthur        Marylebone    1a   1236   
SIMMS    Elizabeth Prudence         Marylebone    1a   1236    

Daughter...

ANDERSON, DOROTHY  PRUDENCE      mmn SIMMS        

GRO Reference: 1909  J Quarter in BOSTON  Volume 07A  Page 426
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« Reply #6 on: Monday 17 April 17 16:46 BST (UK) »
Carol,

I suspect aussie-girl already has a lot of the references I posted but I figured I may as well post them to avoid anyone else re-treading the same steps.

There are a couple of other references which I didn't post though:

Postal service:
Aug 1907; Henri E Koeune; Temporary boy clerk [?]; Brighton

Teachers register:
Aug 1920; Helene Marie Koeune; Assistant mistress, East Hove Higher Grade Girls School 1908-


As for the Andersons, it looks like aussie-girl has another thread for them. Following that branch risks duplicating others' searching.

SIMMS-ANDERSON
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=769016.0

Your post did make me curious though and I did wonder whether there was some church connection between the Koeunes and Andersons, as Harry/Henry was from Eastbourne (by the look of it) and they may have taken Alec under their wing. However, I couldn't find any references between the families though so quite how Alec came to be so close to the Andersons is a mystery. Maybe aussie-girl has some ideas.

It does seem slightly odd that the Andersons and Alec sailed from Glasgow when they all seemed to have lived down south.

(Possible) references to Harry:

1881 census - Aylesbury Cottage, Calverly Road, Eastbourne
Harry with his parents Walter Long Anderson (clerk) & Clara Selina Aylesbury
Ref RG11; Piece 1037; Folio 97; Page 41;


1891 census - School of Handicraft, Chertsey
Harry (and his brother Percy?) as scholars at the school. The school appears to be a school for poor boys.
Ref RG12; Piece 552; Folio 14; Page 21;

Chertsey School of Handicrafts, Chertsey, Surrey
http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/ChertseyHandicraft/

School of Handicrafts for Poor Boys, Chertsey
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F153945

Spectator archive - A new school of handicrafts
http://archive.spectator.co.uk/article/4th-december-1886/13/a-new-school-of-handicrafts


1901 census - 17&19, Great Barlow Street, St Marylebone, Marylebone
Harry, a dental assistant.
Ref RG13; Piece 107; Folio 136; Page 41;

Quite where and when Harry would have trained in dentistry, between 1891 and 1901, is a mystery. There doesn't look to be money in the family, so could he have afforded proper training? Maybe his level of training was basic.


GRO BMD references:

1875 Q4 Marriage - Walter Long Anderson & Clara Selina Aylesbury; Pancras 1b 143
1876 Q3 Birth - Walter George Anderson (mmn: Aylesbury); Eastbourne 02b 71
1877 Q4 Birth - Harry Arthur Anderson (mmn: Aylesbury); Eastbourne 02b 68
1879 Q1 Birth - Percy Charles Anderson (mmn: Aylesbury); Eastbourne 02b 80
1887 Q3 Death - Walter Long Anderson; age 36 (1851); Eastbourne 02b 49
Anderson Banks Beard Brewer Caves Clarke Clinch Cooling Cuff Denton Gamble Gibson Gunn Hunt Mills Muncey Norris Notzke Reid Robinson Searle Smith Trundle Turner Weedon Wells Wilson

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 17 April 17 17:05 BST (UK) »
Dentists register:

1925 Henry Arthur Anderson; cert no. 16192; reg: 15 Aug 1922; Dentist 1921;
Address: 321 Queen's Park Road, Brighton

1930 Henry Arthur Anderson; cert no. 16192; reg: 15 Aug 1922; Dentist 1921;
Address: 321 Queen's Park Road, Brighton

1935 Henry Arthur Anderson; cert no. 16192; reg: 15 Aug 1922; Dentist 1921;
Address: 49 The Fairway, Sudbury Court, Wembley, Middlesex
Anderson Banks Beard Brewer Caves Clarke Clinch Cooling Cuff Denton Gamble Gibson Gunn Hunt Mills Muncey Norris Notzke Reid Robinson Searle Smith Trundle Turner Weedon Wells Wilson

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« Reply #8 on: Monday 17 April 17 17:39 BST (UK) »
Alec and the Anderson's daughter Dorothy Prudence were very close in age.
I wondered if that was a link?
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