The bouncing McBrides

[DrT33th]

I am hoping for some help, as I have hit a brick wall.

My grandfather, Samuel McBride, came to Scotland (Old Kilpatrick) as a young child, from County Down, around 1900.  The family all appear in the 1901 census and again in the 1911 census


Samuel McBride
Mary McBride (Wife)
William, Francis and Samuel (sons) all arrived together.

The 1901 census has has them all as born in County Down, but no detail.

Robert (Bobby) was born soon after their arrival in Scotland.

In 1901 they lived in "Peacock's Land" old Kilpatrick, which I understand is actually in Duntocher/Hardgate area. 

In the 1911 Census they are living at 26 Radnor Street, Clydebank.


Sometime after 1911 the family returned to Ireland (possible County Antrim. I know that my grandfather use to visit family in Lisburn.)

The family "tradition" is that Samuel fell out with his father and he and Bobby left Ireland again to return to Scotland.

Samuel, my grandfather, then served in the army in the first world war, came home and married Isabella Gillan ..and the rest is, well..history.

I have no idea how to track the McBride family before they got on the boat to Scotland, or what happened after they went back.

Any and all ideas gratefully received.

 - Fraser

[Sinann]

What are the ages of the children born in Ireland in the 1901 Census?
You should be able to find their births here
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

[DrT33th]

Hi Sinann, Thank you for that   

I am in Melbourne Australia..so I can only post overnight / early morning UK/Ireland time. 

Samuel McBride (senior) was born about 1859
Mary Jane Davis (Wife) about about 1861

Francis about 1891
William about 1893
Samuel (my Grandfather) 17th April 1897.

- Fraser

[Sinann]

I was just having a look while you were writing and found this one but it's a bit early.

A possible 1893 Belfast.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1893/02307/1865099.pdf

You can see the registrations districts here.
http://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/Ireland-civil-registration.html

If you can't find them, I might get a chance to look later or someone else may find them in the meantime.

[DrT33th]

Wow.. That looks like him...but 4 years older than I was told!!  1893 not 1897!!..and Belfast and not County Down as per the Scottish 1901 census. 

No wonder I was having trouble 

[DrT33th]

Woo Hoo   

I have found all three sons, living at 3 Montrose Street, in Belfast.

Thank you so much.  This nis a good start. I can work on from here   


 - Fraser

[sam.b]

Just in case you don't have any of this:
Surname   First Name   Year   Father's First Name   County
MCBRIDE   SAMUEL   1889   FRANCIS   Down
Type   Civil Marriages
Date of Marriage   14/10/1889
Husband's Name   SAMUEL MCBRIDE
Husband's Address   HILLSBOROUGH
Husband's Occupation   LABOURER
Husband's Age   28
Husband's Denomination   Church of Ireland
Husband's Marital Status   Bachelor (Previously unmarried)
Husband's Father's Name   FRANCIS MCBRIDE
Husband's Father's Occupation   LABOURER
Husband's Witness   JOHN LAVERY
Wife's Name   MARY JANE DAVIS
Wife's Address   BELFAST
Wife's Age   28
Wife's Denomination   Church of Ireland
Wife's Marital Status   Spinster (Previously unmarried)
Wife's Father's Name   WILLIAM DAVIS
Wife's Father's Occupation   BLACKSMITH
Wife's Witness   MARY JANE MCBRIDE
Comment   BY LICENCE REV R A KERNAN.
Address 1   HILLSBOROUGH Church of Ireland
Address 2   LISBURN
Address 3   HILLSBOROUGH.

U/1890/57/1007/45/347   Francis   McBride   15th April 1890   Male   Davis   Belfast   

U/1892/57/1007/52/220   William   McBride   22nd April 1892   Male   Davis   Belfast   

U/1893/57/1007/55/455   Samuel   McBride   17th April 1893   Male   Davis   Belfast

[Sinann]

I'm not up on Belfast geography but part of the city is in County Down.

[sam.b]

Your Correct, part in County Down and part in County Antrim, as far as I know separated by the River Lagan.