William Grundy mariner b approx 1806

[brigidmac]

 William Grundy was a mariner on Sumatra aged 63 in 1869 leaving Liverpool

I have found him on another crew lists which confirms his age and also  states he was born in Falmouth

I'm presuming this is the same William Grundy given as father occupation mariner
on both daughters Sarah Grundy and Anne Grundy  (1847  and 1850 marriage certificates )

I can't find him anywhere else ...
His wife Sarah is listed age 36 in 1941 as Ind.

Living with Healey family whose son's Edward and George would be the respective groom's of her daughter's in Toxteth Liverpool.

I can't find William Grundy.,s marriage to Sarah

Or birth of daughter Sarah who according to all censuses( 1851-1901 )was born in London abt 1823:

Daughter Ann was born in Liverpool 1830

i cant find the teenage Grundy girls in 1841 on ancestry searches

And cant find William from birth in Falmouth to death he was discharged from ship in Oct 1869 if it was health reasons maybe he didn't make it to 1871 census

Fresh eyes appreciated

[brigidmac]

I did find one William Grundy seaman living in Stoke Golding 1841 Leicester

with Mary Grundy aged 60 head and Ann age 30 mother and sis ?

But can't find any connection

[brigidmac]

Maybe Sarah and William Grundy did not marry and she just assumed his name

So her daughter's could have been born under different names .

Sarah Grundy junior also is a mystery ...

..Her marriage to Edward Healey was 1847 but on  1851 census their daughter Mary Ann is aged 8 !

I cant find any birth or baptism for a Mary Ann Grundy or Healey or name variations around 1843

Information on both women after. 1851 is abundant and both lived into their 80.s

Some refs to the Healey's is on this thread

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=709529.msg5528843#msg5528843

[heywood]

Birth

March 1843 West Derby vol 20 pg 898

Mary Ann Healy - mother's maiden name Grundy

[heywood]

I know you have Sarah in 1841 - do you have her anywhere else?

Just something to think about:
Lancs OPC shows 3 baptisms at St Peter's Liverpool.
22nd July 1827 - two children Sarah and Ann. Parents William and Harriet. William is a mariner.
1929 - William Grundy - same parents but William is a warehouse man.

1827 marriage William Grundy and Harriet Northeast.

[brigidmac]

Wow well done Heywood .

....No i haven't found Sarah anywhere else maybe she was Sarah Harriet or a totally different Sarah
Grundy .....

But could it be a coincidence that she was living with future husbands of William Grundy.s daughters ?

 all the censuses show daughter Mary Ann as born in London ? But i baptism at Liverpool fits in

Back to drawing board

I.ll look at the censuses for a William or Harriet Grundy  again i remember seeing some with ason William .I think the proffession was Cartwright

[heywood]

I did  find a William in the workhouse in 1841 in Walton on the Hill.

[brigidmac]

He could have had different proffession

his ship records were
1868.age 62   time on board 24 hours ..      discharged

1869 age 63  may to October.        Cook .......  discharged

[heywood]

IT was Young William in the workhouse. It might not be your family at all- just coincidence perhaps but worth noting.