Grahams of Shettleston

[MonicaL]

You can only post small relevant sections rather that the whole cert here on RC.

Monica

[Skoosh]

Presumably a tenant farmer so Hogganfield was on the Frankfield Estate, with to the north, Garnkirk estate.

Skoosh.

[Bryan60]

Thanks skoosh. How can I check these older farms for tenancy?

Bryan

[MonicaL]

Bryan, I have been trying again to find James in the earlier censuses before his marriage in 1862. The 1841 census he may not show in if he was born after this was taken (6 June).

On the issue of his parents' names, you have William Graham and Margaret Addie (and variants of this) from his 1862 marrriage and then James Graham and Christina Cummings as reported by son William when he died.

Just as an idea. We know his parents show as deceased when he married in 1862. Cannot see any trace so far in 1851 and 1861 for a James Graham born in 1841 +/- 2yrs in Shettleston area or surrounds.

There is however a James Cummings, with father James and Christina. He appears with them in 1851 and 1861 and then no trace. He also shows as a miner by 1861 which fits with James Graham's occupation that you have. Wondering whether by the time James' son William was reporting death, things just got jumbled. Could also explain why the first two born girl and boy were called Christina and James?

I will add the census entries below...

[MonicaL]

1851 -

James Cumming 35 b. Lesmahagow, Lanark
Christine Cumming 32 b. Kilninver, Argyllshire
James Cumming 10 b.  Barony Parish, Lanark
Jean Cumming 8 b. Barony Parish, Lanark
Cathrine Cumming 6 b. Barony Parish, Lanark

Address: Hogganfield, Shettleston

1861

James Cumming 46 coal miner b. Shettleston
Christina Cumming 46 b. Kilninver, Argyl
James Cumming 19 coal miner b. Shettleston
Jane Cumming 17 b. Shettleston
Alexr Cumming 13 coal miner b. Shettleston
John Cumming 9 b. Shettleston
Marion Cumming 7 b. Shettleston
Anne Cumming 3 b. Shettleston

Address: Rams Horn, Shettleston

From the 1857 birth for Anne, mother is showing as a McCallum.

Monica 

[MonicaL]

Bryan, you mentioned Millerston for James Graham at the beginning of the posts, in addition to Hogganfield. What is the reason for that? It is just that by the time of the 1871, we have Millerston also coming up for the Cummings family above.

From 1871:

Christina Cumming 57 b. Argyll
Jane Cumming 26 b. Millerston, Shettleston
Alexander Cumming 23 coal miner b. Millerston, Shettleston
John Cumming 19 coal miner b. Millerston, Shettleston
Ann Cumming 13 b. Millerston, Shettleston

Address: Rams Horn, Shettleston

Monica

Added: See Hogganfield and Millerston are side by side, I think...!

[isobelw]

Monica - I wondered about that James Cummings as well as I found him in 1841, age 1 month with his parents James and Christina and  they were living at Millerston. This was on Freecen and as I couldn't find the entry on Ancestry I did a search with first names and ages and they are transcribed as Cammings on there. Had picked up the 1857 birth of Anne but haven't had time to look further for possible census entries. I see you have found them. Looks a possible, but why the change of surname in 1862 and the wrong parents?
Isobel

[MonicaL]

Bryan has asked me to add the two snippets with parents' details for James Graham.

Below is his parents' details that he gave at the time of his 1862 marriage:

[MonicaL]

And parents' details given by son William when father James died in 1909: