Patrick Collins

[Janice Jones]

I have found Census for both 1901 and 1911 for Patrick and Jane Collins and family in Ballynakill, Galway.  There only seem to be 10 homes in this Townland.  There are similarities, in that the wife's name is the same and 4 children's names of the correct age are on both.
There are differences though as well.
In 1901 Patrick can read and write and signed the form (the signature handwriting style is similar to the Enumerators), he is 30 and Jane is from Co. Galway and is 28
In 1911 Patrick can only read and make his mark which is witnessed (by a different Enumerator to 1901) he is 46 and Jane is from Co Meath and is 40
I have my Patrick as being born on 25 April 1861 (in Derrybrien, Galway, Ireland) so maybe neither is right?
Any thoughts?
Many thanks

[aghadowey]

For reference-

In 1901 the Collins family are in Ballygowan townland-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Ballynagar/Ballygowan/1388183

Still in Ballygowan in 1911-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Galway/Ballynagar/Ballygowan/465169

Ballygowan townland in Ballynakill civil parish-
https://www.townlands.ie/galway/leitrim/ballynakill/ballynagar/ballygowan/

[heywood]

This is a birth for James with a mother, Jane Mulligan.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/01971/1760034.pdf

[heywood]

What was your Patrick's father's name?

There is a marriage here, Patrick Collins Of Derrybrien.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1897/10465/5811087.pdf

And census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Derrylaur/Derrybrien_West/1388476/

[Janice Jones]

You're right aghadowey, thanks. I see I should have named Ballygowan as the Townland and Ballynakill as the parish.
Thanks for the link heywood.
I have the names and birthdates of the 13 children:
John 2/6/1893
Michael (after Patrick's father) 7/8/1894
Martin (my Grandfather) 14/11/1895
Patrick 24/6/1897
Mary Jane 5/12/1898
James 24/10/1895 (or 21/10 hard to read)
Thomas 6/8/1903
Daniel 20/10/1905
William 1/11/1907
Catherine 8/4/1910
Lawrence 14/5/1912
Cornelius 1913
Bridget 1/02/1915

I have Patrick's parents as Michael Collins (Derrybrien, Galway) and Norry Halloran b.1835
I have his wife as Jane Mulligan and her parents Patrick and Jane (Enniss I think)

The possible Census forms I mentioned and you linked to heywood are the only other possible info I've been able to turn up.

Thanks

[heywood]

I'm confused now as I have posted for a different Patrick based on the Derrybrien information.
I'll have another look.

[heywood]

Here is Michael Collins, Derrybrien.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Derrylaur/Derrybrien_East/1388413/

Is that right?

Do you have the marriage to Jane Mulligan?

[Janice Jones]

Thanks.
I have that Norry Halloran was born in 1835, the daughter of Johanna and Michael, and was baptized on 19 January 1835.  The age of 70 in 1901 is near enough?  I think I have Michael and Norry having 3 children - Patrick 1861, Margaret 1866 and Pat 1867.  I'm not sure if Patrick didn't survive or maybe Pat is a pet name?

[heywood]

Here is a Michael Collins with a father Michael so perhaps another child.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1895/10529/5835238.pdf