Author Topic: Alice Fraser boarded out child at Benvie Farm cottage in 1911  (Read 8817 times)

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Re: Alice Fraser boarded out child at Benvie Farm cottage in 1911
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 26 April 17 18:32 BST (UK) »
Wow, William and Scotmum, that is great detail on the Fraser side (lucky late baptism for Charles in Dundee!).

Struggle with his death between 1901-08 given wife Williamina's remarriage that you found earlier Scotmum in 1908.

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Re: Alice Fraser boarded out child at Benvie Farm cottage in 1911
« Reply #46 on: Wednesday 26 April 17 18:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Dotty May

When you come to his service record look to the right of the screen - there is an arrow - click on it to scroll. There are quite a few pages!

William

Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)

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Re: Alice Fraser boarded out child at Benvie Farm cottage in 1911
« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 26 April 17 23:20 BST (UK) »
If it was Charles himself who gave his details in the 1901 in Glasgow, I wonder why he gave his place of birth as Portsmouth, if by his baptism record in 1902, he knew he was born in Limerick.

Is it just a coincide or otherwise, that in 1901, there is also a Charles S Fraser, married, jute mill worker, born Ireland, boarding at Commercial Street , Dundee? No one else listed in household on the transcript.
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Re: Alice Fraser boarded out child at Benvie Farm cottage in 1911
« Reply #48 on: Thursday 27 April 17 08:51 BST (UK) »
Back to Elspeth Stewart nee Young. There is a death on scotlandspeople worth checking, to perhaps rule in/out. It is for an Elspet Stewart or Young (indexed under both) in St Nicholas district, Aberdeen, in 1898 aged 47.

On her second marriage, was Williamina's mum noted as deceased by then?
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Re: Alice Fraser boarded out child at Benvie Farm cottage in 1911
« Reply #49 on: Thursday 27 April 17 09:36 BST (UK) »
Yes on the marriage certificate for Williamina to Donald Fulton, her mother is noted as deceased.  Have checked out death certificate and it has her husband as ALexander Stewart.  I have found a marriage between Elspet Young (21) and James Stewart (22) on 18/1/1868 at Newhills, Aberdeen.  she may have remarried another Stewart but I can't find it
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Re: Alice Fraser boarded out child at Benvie Farm cottage in 1911
« Reply #50 on: Thursday 27 April 17 15:21 BST (UK) »
Spent a couple of hours this morning at the archives where I was given access to the admission book to the Industrial School which gave me a couple more hints.  Charles and William were admitted under supervision till the age of 18 for the reason "found wandering".  They had only been in Dundee for 3 weeks.   William had attended Bishoptown school for 1 year, think that's in Glasgow.  Both boys were noted as being born in Aberdeen, which is not correct. 
Father's (Charles) age is given as 32 born Inverness.  Mother (Williamina) aged 28 Born BRAZIL.
I suppose Brazil is not beyond the realm of possibility as on her marriage certificate her father is listed as a steamship stoker.
My gran always said she was found on a doorstop, maybe found wandering is where that story came from
Unfortunately they do not have any records from the Dundee Parochial Board to see what happened to Alice but I suspect that it was at this time she was "boarded" out because of her age ( 3 years)
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Re: Alice Fraser boarded out child at Benvie Farm cottage in 1911
« Reply #51 on: Thursday 27 April 17 15:32 BST (UK) »
Does the admissions register say when they were found wandering or admitted?
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Re: Alice Fraser boarded out child at Benvie Farm cottage in 1911
« Reply #52 on: Thursday 27 April 17 15:35 BST (UK) »
They were admitted 1/7/1903
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Re: Alice Fraser boarded out child at Benvie Farm cottage in 1911
« Reply #53 on: Thursday 27 April 17 15:37 BST (UK) »
Someone posted earlier re Williamina being born in Brazil that she found out from the census but then thought it was a mistake, where had they found this information please
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