Long time brick wall death record of Catherine Nolan.Any help appreciated.

[Jan48]

Born Catherine Murphy Bagenalstown Co Carlow 1833.  Marr Thomas Nolan Bagenalstown 1853
4 children b Bagenalstown - Thomas 1856 Margaret 1864 Catherine 1866 & Ellen 1869 (my Gt Grandmother)
It seems 2 children b Lisblake Co Fermanagh - Owen 1876 & M

[hallmark]

You could try irishgenealogy for BDM's starting 1865

RC church registers if RC

[Jan48]

cont....  Margaret 1864 Catherine 1866 & Ellen 1869 ( my grandmother)
2 children b Lisblake Co Fermanagh - Owen 1876 & Mary Anne 1877
Possibly 1 child b Dublin - Anna 1879 - were they on their way to England then?
Family move to Lancashire after 1879 - with or without Catherine??
Their son Thomas is on 1881c married with 1 child in Burnley Lancashire
First evidence of Catherine's husband Thomas in Lancashire is daugh Catherine's death cert1885 in Barrowford.
Then daugh Margaret's marriage in 1889 to James Sullivan in Burnley.
1891 husband Thomas widowed living with daugh Ellen in Nelson area of Burnley.
So no trace of Catherine's death in Lancashire and nothing standing out from Irish records.
Any suggestions as to further research welcome as I want to fill in this gap - thanks

[Maggsie]

Hi was Ellen's Birthday the 9th of September?
as you say the year was 1869.
Maggsie

[hallmark]

Your full message (from other thread you had started plus what you posted already on this thread)


Born Catherine Murphy Bagenalstown Co Carlow 1833.  Marr Thomas Nolan Bagenalstown 1853
4 children b Bagenalstown - Thomas 1856 Margaret 1864 Catherine 1866 & Ellen 1869 (my Gt Grandmother)
It seems 2 children b Lisblake Co Fermanagh - Owen 1876 & Margaret 1864 Catherine 1866 & Ellen 1869 ( my grandmother)
2 children b Lisblake Co Fermanagh - Owen 1876 & Mary Anne 1877
Possibly 1 child b Dublin - Anna 1879 - were they on their way to England then?
Family move to Lancashire after 1879 - with or without Catherine??
Their son Thomas is on 1881c married with 1 child in Burnley Lancashire
First evidence of Catherine's husband Thomas in Lancashire is daugh Catherine's death cert1885 in Barrowford.
Then daugh Margaret's marriage in 1889 to James Sullivan in Burnley.
1891 husband Thomas widowed living with daugh Ellen in Nelson area of Burnley.
So no trace of Catherine's death in Lancashire and nothing standing out from Irish records.
Any suggestions as to further research welcome as I want to fill in this gap - thanks

[aghadowey]

You could try irishgenealogy for BDM's starting 1865

RC church registers if RC

Births, deaths and Catholic marriages starting 1864 (from 1845 for non-Catholic marriages)

[aghadowey]

I've asked if both threads could be merged to avoid confusion but in the meantime...

You seem a bit unsure about quite a few details-
Possibly 1 child b Dublin - Anna 1879 - were they on their way to England then?
Is this the record you mean (only birth for an Anna Nolan 1869 Dublin that I can see)? born in Workhouse, parents John Nolan (deceased) & Catherine Murphy-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1879/02920/2069937.pdf

Have you found the family in 1881 English census to see if Catherine is there or Thomas?


Threads merged.

[Jan48]

On birth cert day unclear - it's either 9th or 10th but September correct 

Hi was Ellen's Birthday the 9th of September?
as you say the year was 1869.
Maggsie

[Jan48]

Will check these two out - think I looked before but worth another try.Thanks.

You could try irishgenealogy for BDM's starting 1865

RC church registers if RC