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Re: Gregg/Grigg/Grieg family in 1841 Census - possibly for Oldbury, then in Staffs
« Reply #18 on: Friday 28 April 17 13:59 BST (UK) »
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Hamphles Grig  10

Gold star for you spotting that one  :D
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Re: Gregg/Grigg/Grieg family in 1841 Census - possibly for Oldbury, then in Staffs
« Reply #19 on: Friday 28 April 17 14:04 BST (UK) »

 Ooh! I have my moments..not many I must admit...thank you Milliepede.

Jackie
Dudley Worcs:Ellis Durkin Oakley Rich Smith
Baggot Saunders Turner Williams Hobbs
Harts Hill: Baggot Wright

Tipton:Whitehouse (boatman) Timmins
Yorkshire:Littlewood Wilcockson
Derbyshire:Wilcockson

Derby Belper:Spencer
Herefordshire Brampton Bryan:-Turner

Worcs. Hereford. Gloucs.
Hodgetts




Radnorshire: Meredith
Bristol Somerset: Box

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Re: Gregg/Grigg/Grieg family in 1841 Census - possibly for Oldbury, then in Staffs
« Reply #20 on: Friday 28 April 17 15:23 BST (UK) »
My goodness, you guys have been busy while I've been away - and so so helpful.

Yes, very unusual to see parent's names for non-infant burials - but very helpful.

Yes, I'll settle for Grigg. Now actually traced a line to the US where Grigg became Griggs.

Brilliant Milliepede: "Hamphles Grig  10" has got to be my Amplias. Wonderful, wonderful! Many thanks. Platinum star for you, I think. Recall also that a John and Mary Anne Clarke witnessed Amplias' wedding in 1852. Bet John gave her away as her father was deceased.

Many many thanks to both of you. I had though this a lost cause but didn't anticipate your expertise.

Best wishes

John
Owens-Swansea/Wallasey/Garston,L’pool
Jones-Erbistock/Widnes
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Davies-Holywell,Garston,L'pool
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Re: Gregg/Grigg/Grieg family in 1841 Census - possibly for Oldbury, then in Staffs
« Reply #21 on: Friday 28 April 17 15:34 BST (UK) »
... however, still wondering about Amplias' mother Mary, for whom no trace. Fact that Amplias is whether the Clarkes aged 10 may suggest she was an orphan. Brother Job was out working in Halesowen aged 15 in 1841. I guess the same for the other older brothers, asuming they were still alive. If Amplias was an orphan, mother Mary may have died in child birth or in the work house. Before the Poor Law came in West Brom had a workhouse in now St Clement's Lane in West Bromwich from 1735 (http://www.workhouses.org.uk/WestBromwich/ ). Also after 1766, some almshouses on Meeting Street in Wednesbury. Also at Handsworth. I'll check the 1841C.

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John
Owens-Swansea/Wallasey/Garston,L’pool
Jones-Erbistock/Widnes
Allen-Tetsworth/Hoole/Runcorn/St.Helens/Iowa/Kansas/Nebraska
Yieveley/Yevily/Everley/Heviley-Little Ness,Salop/Oldbury/St Helens/Garston,L'pool
Davies-Holywell,Garston,L'pool
Ithel-Bagilt,Mold
Fletcher-Rainhill/Widnes
Hughes-Marchwiel,Bangor-Is-Coed,Denbs
Thomas-Oswestry, Salop/Liverpool
Cole-Cliffe Peppard/Lyneham, Wilts
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Re: Gregg/Grigg/Grieg family in 1841 Census - possibly for Oldbury, then in Staffs
« Reply #22 on: Friday 28 April 17 16:03 BST (UK) »
I can't take the credit John it was Jackie that found her! 

We're looking at the family next door in 1841 - Joseph Timmins and the marriage Jackie found Mary Grigg
Jesse Timmins in 1837

Maiden name for Mary was Horton so if she is the same Mary need a John Grigg/Mary Horton marriage.

I think that's where we're at  :D
Hinchliffe Huddersfield Wiltshire

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Re: Gregg/Grigg/Grieg family in 1841 Census - possibly for Oldbury, then in Staffs
« Reply #23 on: Friday 28 April 17 19:54 BST (UK) »
... Yes, I can only see John Griigg-Mary Wright 9 Nov 1818 at Handsworth & JG-Mary Sheldon at Dudley 26 Nov 1820.

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John
Owens-Swansea/Wallasey/Garston,L’pool
Jones-Erbistock/Widnes
Allen-Tetsworth/Hoole/Runcorn/St.Helens/Iowa/Kansas/Nebraska
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Ithel-Bagilt,Mold
Fletcher-Rainhill/Widnes
Hughes-Marchwiel,Bangor-Is-Coed,Denbs
Thomas-Oswestry, Salop/Liverpool
Cole-Cliffe Peppard/Lyneham, Wilts
Frawley-Rathkeale, Co. Limerick
Conway-Coolanoran,Co.Limerick
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Re: Gregg/Grigg/Grieg family in 1841 Census - possibly for Oldbury, then in Staffs
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 29 April 17 15:46 BST (UK) »
Wondering if this could be John Griggs sister..(there's very few Amplias Griggs knocking about)

Marriage St John the Baptist Halesowen 8th Dec 1832

Amplias Grigg (spin) + Samuel Johnson(bach)

Witnesses John Grigg + Elizabeth Johnson

Oldbury was in the Halesowen district ( in 1841 census)

Jackie
Dudley Worcs:Ellis Durkin Oakley Rich Smith
Baggot Saunders Turner Williams Hobbs
Harts Hill: Baggot Wright

Tipton:Whitehouse (boatman) Timmins
Yorkshire:Littlewood Wilcockson
Derbyshire:Wilcockson

Derby Belper:Spencer
Herefordshire Brampton Bryan:-Turner

Worcs. Hereford. Gloucs.
Hodgetts




Radnorshire: Meredith
Bristol Somerset: Box

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Re: Gregg/Grigg/Grieg family in 1841 Census - possibly for Oldbury, then in Staffs
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 29 April 17 17:01 BST (UK) »
Jackie, I see your logic: not many Amplias Griggs about plus it would explain where my Amplias got her name (from a favourite aunt) + you have a strong track record!!

I've found this marriage with Halesowen in Worcestershire in 1832 in FindMyPast, but unfortunately no image of the original doc. Nonetheless, this looks a very strong possibility. Many thanks, Jackie.

Re. my Amplias' mother (Mary), I wondered whether you (or anyone) have found a John Grigg/Mary Horton marriage, which would give us a positive on Mary Grigg's (nee Horton) remarriage (to Joseph Timmins) in 1837? Or are we still with the 1820 John Grifgg/Mary Sheldon marriage?

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John
Owens-Swansea/Wallasey/Garston,L’pool
Jones-Erbistock/Widnes
Allen-Tetsworth/Hoole/Runcorn/St.Helens/Iowa/Kansas/Nebraska
Yieveley/Yevily/Everley/Heviley-Little Ness,Salop/Oldbury/St Helens/Garston,L'pool
Davies-Holywell,Garston,L'pool
Ithel-Bagilt,Mold
Fletcher-Rainhill/Widnes
Hughes-Marchwiel,Bangor-Is-Coed,Denbs
Thomas-Oswestry, Salop/Liverpool
Cole-Cliffe Peppard/Lyneham, Wilts
Frawley-Rathkeale, Co. Limerick
Conway-Coolanoran,Co.Limerick
Dinneen-Ballingarry,Co. Limerick

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Re: Gregg/Grigg/Grieg family in 1841 Census - possibly for Oldbury, then in Staffs
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 29 April 17 17:31 BST (UK) »
John
      So you are going to discount the Mary Timmins living next door to Amplias in 1841 census.

Jackie
Dudley Worcs:Ellis Durkin Oakley Rich Smith
Baggot Saunders Turner Williams Hobbs
Harts Hill: Baggot Wright

Tipton:Whitehouse (boatman) Timmins
Yorkshire:Littlewood Wilcockson
Derbyshire:Wilcockson

Derby Belper:Spencer
Herefordshire Brampton Bryan:-Turner

Worcs. Hereford. Gloucs.
Hodgetts




Radnorshire: Meredith
Bristol Somerset: Box

Census Information is Crown Copyright from
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