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Re: Looking for Patrick & Elizabeth
« Reply #18 on: Friday 28 April 17 22:23 BST (UK) »
Given the difference in the middle name and the reference to Patrick being in New York, I wouldn't be surprised if Patrick died outside of the county or state.
Given that Patrick had deserted elizabeth by 1914 & the bankruptcy petition 1915/1916 new york he probably ended up there as petition mentioned he was former owner of american house

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Re: Looking for Patrick & Elizabeth
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 29 April 17 02:24 BST (UK) »
The American House sold around 5 August 1909. The new owner, J. J. McCarthy, was a 17-year veteran of the police force. So, yes, Patrick’s marriage troubles may have prompted the sale.

The Patrick that died in 1918 was born in Suffield, the son of Patrick Hartnett, so definitely not your guy.

Just read the posted link about Patrick’s father Maurice. Died at Andersonville. Ugh. The worst of the Civil War Camps.

A few more interesting little details:

19 January 1896: It was reported that Patrick Hartnett, of Warren, had bought the Central House at North Brookfield. The town only had two hotels. Not sure if he continued to work at both of them.

1898-1901: He was the proprietor of the Batcheller House in North Brookfield for three years. This is where he was on that 1900 census.

https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:fb494g991

21 July 1898 Alleged Illegal Liquor Selling: North Brookfield was a no licence town. After a Tuesday night raid by town constables on the Batcheller House, five kegs of beer were found under the floor of the billiard room, the entrance being through a trap door at the side of the room, over which chairs had been placed.

28 March 1901: Leased American House property in Springfield.

1907 wedding: “They left town in the groom’s automobile about 10 o’clock and have gone on a two-weeks wedding trip to Washington and Jamestown. They received many handsome presents and the groom’s gift to the bride was a $1000 check."


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Re: Looking for Patrick & Elizabeth
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 29 April 17 13:54 BST (UK) »
Thank you Gracie for all the interesting info helps to build a picture of Patrick life although his death remains elusive. I guess the bankruptcy in 1915/1916 in NY points to him having moved there. :)

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Re: Looking for Patrick & Elizabeth
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 29 April 17 14:03 BST (UK) »
I thought this Patrick Hartnett in the 1920 census was potentially interesting - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJ1H-YB6  All the info doesn't perfectly match your guy, but as he was a roomer, maybe the information came from other folks in the house.  His occupation was retired - maybe that's a nice way of saying bankrupt?   :-\


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Re: Looking for Patrick & Elizabeth
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 29 April 17 14:53 BST (UK) »
I thought this Patrick Hartnett in the 1920 census was potentially interesting - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJ1H-YB6  All the info doesn't perfectly match your guy, but as he was a roomer, maybe the information came from other folks in the house.  His occupation was retired - maybe that's a nice way of saying bankrupt?   :-\
Feasable Shelly he was born March 1861 also states parents born MA when in fact Ireland but as you say if it was 2nd hand info exact details wouldnt be known.  Would there be any account of the bankruptcy proceedings? :)

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Re: Looking for Patrick & Elizabeth
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 29 April 17 16:29 BST (UK) »
I didn’t see him listed on the 1925 NY state census.

There is a Patrick Hartnett, who was buried 9 February 1922, although in Brooklyn. No information about him, not even death date. Possible? 
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=173102377&ref=acom

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Re: Looking for Patrick & Elizabeth
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 29 April 17 17:54 BST (UK) »
The 1922 death is here and is not him - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WV2-D7S  Most people who lived/died in Manhattan in the 20th century are not going to be buried there, as there wasn't lots of room there for cemeteries, so it would otherwise make sense to see a burial elsewhere, usually in Brooklyn or Queens. 

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Re: Looking for Patrick & Elizabeth
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 29 April 17 19:04 BST (UK) »
I didn’t see him listed on the 1925 NY state census.

There is a Patrick Hartnett, who was buried 9 February 1922, although in Brooklyn. No information about him, not even death date. Possible? 
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=173102377&ref=acom

Gracie he has been discounted born Ireland as per record found by Shelly, tks

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Re: Looking for Patrick & Elizabeth
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 29 April 17 19:06 BST (UK) »
The 1922 death is here and is not him - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WV2-D7S  Most people who lived/died in Manhattan in the 20th century are not going to be buried there, as there wasn't lots of room there for cemeteries, so it would otherwise make sense to see a burial elsewhere, usually in Brooklyn or Queens. 
I guess shelly it like looking for " a needle in a haystack" the elusive patrick could be anywhere ::)