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Offline Ruth Reeves

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Gee-Evans family of Splott
« on: Thursday 27 April 17 20:33 BST (UK) »
My Grandfather, John Gee, married Sophia Evans in 1899. The name of her father as shown on the marriage license was Frederick Tythecott Evans. However, we also see the name Selina Lynch, sister of Sophia as one of the witnesses and on the 1901 census, it shows that a young lady by the name of Jessie Lynch is living with John and Sophia and is listed as the "sister-in-law" of the head of the household which is John. It gets trickier, Selina Lynch was not and had not been married at the time of Sophia's marriage and Jessie was just a child so obviously she had not been married. It shows that Jessie Lynch was born in Perry Barr, England.  Another piece of the puzzle is that when Sophia went to sign her name on her marriage license, she started to write Lynch instead of Evans. Is Frederick Evans a step-dad? Is he a guardian?  What about a grandparent?  We can't find the link between Evans and Lynch and can't find anything on Frederick so we're stuck at the generation of John Gee and Sophia Evans.

The Gee's in Wales and the ones in Ireland are kicking my butt. I can't go any further back than Pierce Gee and even he is terribly elusive, and Frederick Evans.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Offline Cas (stallc)

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Re: Gee-Evans family of Splott
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 27 April 17 20:58 BST (UK) »
This marriage would tie with 1891 census https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7B9Z-9T2

Marriages Jun 1885   Same page
Evans    Rosa        Swansea    11a   1019    
Lynch    David        Swansea    11a   1019    

Jessie has Mmn as Evans, possibly Sophia is Rosa illegitimate dau born before marriage
   
LYNCH, JESSIE       Mmn EVANS     
GRO Reference: 1893  M Quarter in WEST BROMWICH  Volume 06B  Page 830
 

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Gee-Evans family of Splott
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 27 April 17 21:09 BST (UK) »
Possible birth

Births Mar Q 1882   
EVANS Sophia Tytheecot      Swansea    11a 680

No Mmn listed so likely illegitimate
EVANS, SOPHIA  TYTHEECOT     -     
GRO Reference: 1882  M Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 680
 
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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Gee-Evans family of Splott
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 27 April 17 21:22 BST (UK) »
So it's likely that she started to write Lynch on her marriage license because she was raised by them but her father's name was Evans? Which would explain Sophia's middle name. But why would she write her bio father's name on her marriage license instead of David Lynch's name since she was raised by them?  Could it be that Frederick had come back into the picture?


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Re: Gee-Evans family of Splott
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 27 April 17 21:27 BST (UK) »
There is a possibility that Frederick Tythecot was her father, Evans was her mothers name, or Frederick could be her grandfather? Or made up to save face. Of to work, will have a look tmw if no others look back

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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Gee-Evans family of Splott
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 27 April 17 22:40 BST (UK) »
Might be a total coincidence, but there's a James Thithecott on the electoral registers in Orchard Road Swansea from 1883 - 1887

Sophie may not have known the whole truth, hence Frederick. She would use her purported father's name and her surname as registered at birth on the marriage cert as they where what was considered to be legally correct, even if David Lynch had been her father figure

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Re: Gee-Evans family of Splott
« Reply #6 on: Friday 28 April 17 16:57 BST (UK) »
Thanks Cas and Mabel.  Mabel, my husband may be related to you. He has Bagshawe going back to the 1400's.  I love genealogy.  :)

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Re: Gee-Evans family of Splott
« Reply #7 on: Friday 28 April 17 18:53 BST (UK) »
I'm afraid not - Bagshawe is a nom-de-keyboard