Author Topic: 1911 -Occupation Actress  (Read 982 times)

Offline reeves_colin

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 343
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
1911 -Occupation Actress
« on: Friday 28 April 17 03:37 BST (UK) »
Hello

Bit of a shot in the dark.
I have come across on 1911 Census
 
for Alice Pike b 1884 Daglingworth, Gloucestershire.

Living in Great Titchfield Street, London.

Her Occupation is listed as ACTRESS and the number 466 as an occupation code.

466 is listed as Actor
467 is Actor Art, Music and Theatre.

Does anybody have any records, reviews or reports that might shed a light on what kind of Actress Alice was and what she may have done.

Any help would be greatfully received

thanks in advance

Colin
Reeves - Bagendon,Daglingworth,North Cerney Gloucs
Shurmer - Latton, Wiltshire
Sheppard - Bibury,Hatherop, Quenington,Gloucs
Uzzell - Blunsdon, Wiltshire
Mustoe, Siddington, Gloucs
Dance, Berkshire
Durham - Kempsford Gloucs, Highworth, Hannington - Wiltshire

Colin

RootsChat is the busiest, largest free family history forum site in the country. It is completely free to use. Register now.
Also register instantly with Facebook or Twitter (and other social networks). Start your genealogy search now.


Offline Rosinish

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 9,668
  • PASSED & PAST (Speciality - South Uist, Inverness)
    • View Profile
Re: 1911 -Occupation Actress
« Reply #1 on: Friday 28 April 17 03:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Colin,

Just to clarify...

Is Alice Pike her real name or her stage name?

Can you give who her parents are to help please?

Was she single or married in 1911, if so is this her marital surname & who is her hubby?


Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

RootsChat is the busiest, largest free family history forum site in the country. It is completely free to use. Register now.
Also register instantly with Facebook or Twitter (and other social networks). Start your genealogy search now.


Offline reeves_colin

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 343
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: 1911 -Occupation Actress
« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 April 17 03:57 BST (UK) »
Hi

Her full birth name was Alice Mary Pike
She was single on 1911 Census.

Her parents were Alfred and Elizabeth Pike (Nee Smith)

That's all I have at the moment

I have a possible listing for her (Alice M Pike) on 1965 Electoral roll living in London. Gloucester Street.
A marriage would rule this line out though.

Thanks for your reply

Colin
Reeves - Bagendon,Daglingworth,North Cerney Gloucs
Shurmer - Latton, Wiltshire
Sheppard - Bibury,Hatherop, Quenington,Gloucs
Uzzell - Blunsdon, Wiltshire
Mustoe, Siddington, Gloucs
Dance, Berkshire
Durham - Kempsford Gloucs, Highworth, Hannington - Wiltshire

Colin

Offline Rosinish

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 9,668
  • PASSED & PAST (Speciality - South Uist, Inverness)
    • View Profile
Re: 1911 -Occupation Actress
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 April 17 04:20 BST (UK) »
What about 1939?

She may have still been single at that time & a search of the index is free i.e. worth a look in the area.


Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

Offline ShaunJ

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 15,193
    • View Profile
Re: 1911 -Occupation Actress
« Reply #4 on: Friday 28 April 17 11:26 BST (UK) »
It's very difficult to research the activities of actors and actresses without knowing the stage name.
UK Census info. Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Eilleen

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,496
  • relax
    • View Profile
Re: 1911 -Occupation Actress
« Reply #5 on: Friday 15 June 18 14:16 BST (UK) »
have stage name   Zita Ponder ,

still have only one grainy picture of her, out of newspaper in 1918 ?

I feel sure she had publicity shots taken during the 1920 to 1936 .

she appears to have been working all over the Country.  xx

one day maybe , I will see her on an old postcard xx
EXTON, from Rutland, Stamford, Boston, Lincoln. LANES, from Coleby,to Bracebridge Lincoln.WAKEFIELD,PROUDMAN Cheshire and  Stafford.
PINDAR, MOORE, ,CHAMBERS mostly from Lincolnshire.
LAING from Elgin ,Scotland.
 HADDELSEY from Caistor,and Grimsby Lincolnshire.                   
 Parfitt, Le Gros ,Le Sueur, from Jersey.
Martin, from Doncaster  to whelyn garden city, London.
BINT, Worchester, in Australian mint.

Offline reeves_colin

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 343
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: 1911 -Occupation Actress
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 16 June 18 00:17 BST (UK) »
Hello Eileen

Great info if correct.

May I ask how the connection was made between my Alice Mary Pike and a stage name of Zita Ponder

Colin
Reeves - Bagendon,Daglingworth,North Cerney Gloucs
Shurmer - Latton, Wiltshire
Sheppard - Bibury,Hatherop, Quenington,Gloucs
Uzzell - Blunsdon, Wiltshire
Mustoe, Siddington, Gloucs
Dance, Berkshire
Durham - Kempsford Gloucs, Highworth, Hannington - Wiltshire

Colin

Online Mckha489

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 454
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: 1911 -Occupation Actress
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 16 June 18 00:42 BST (UK) »
just to add to the possibilities confusion, she may have more than one stage name.  I have a distant twig who had 5 in the early 20th century.  And if she married her husband may have been an actor  and he may have had various pseudonyms too!


Added, Iíve just seen this.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=779377.0


Added 1911 has Alice Pike's birth pace as Durrington, Wiltshire not Daglingworth, Gloucestershire

added some more

Zita Inez PONDER married Edward R CARTER  1934 Westminster 1a 1224 Dec qtr
If that is the same woman she died as Zita I. R. CARTER  in 1936 and age is 35 which gives a calculated dob of 1901 which is 17 years out compared with 1884.

Her marriage certificate would presumably give the correct PIKE name for her father if that is Alice and she is REALLY guilding the lily regarding her age??

More

Zita Inez PONDER wrote a book published in 1927, The Bandaged Face, an authors site online says she was born Inez Marcia R PONDER  1900-1936

so I think safe to say Alice PIKE is not Zita Inez PONDER

http://www.philsp.com/homeville/sfi/s1333.htm

currently concentrating on NUTCHER & MARSHALL families, Hampshire.
and family of Thomas ANDERSON a Tailor of Perth, Scotland

Online Mckha489

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 454
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: 1911 -Occupation Actress
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 16 June 18 06:52 BST (UK) »
on the page AFTER Alice's 1911 census sheet is that enumerator page and it says the head of the family or separate occupier is Mr Dean PIKE
currently concentrating on NUTCHER & MARSHALL families, Hampshire.
and family of Thomas ANDERSON a Tailor of Perth, Scotland