Author Topic: East London Romanies - SMITHERS/JUDD  (Read 753 times)

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Re: East London Romanies - SMITHERS/JUDD
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 29 April 17 21:41 BST (UK) »
No, I did not

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Re: East London Romanies - SMITHERS/JUDD
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 29 April 17 22:16 BST (UK) »
Which company did you test with?  What does it estimate your admixture to be?

How close are the Romany cousins estimated to be according to shared DNA?


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Re: East London Romanies - SMITHERS/JUDD
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 29 April 17 22:24 BST (UK) »
I tested with Ancestry. Closest cousins of any branch are 4-6. I have South Asia in my admixture, though only 4%. GED match estimates 4th cousins with numerous Romany matches. My closest matches are Romany.

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Re: East London Romanies - SMITHERS/JUDD
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 29 April 17 22:57 BST (UK) »
I know census records are often "near enough" but in 1851 Eliza Allen née Gudgeon says she is 42, so approx 1809, and born in Luton.

Then she's 49 in 1861, so approx 1813!

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Re: East London Romanies - SMITHERS/JUDD
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 29 April 17 23:42 BST (UK) »
I know census records are often "near enough" but in 1851 Eliza Allen née Gudgeon says she is 42, so approx 1809, and born in Luton.

Then she's 49 in 1861, so approx 1813!

How we can prove prior to 1837 in any form/surname of this line will be so difficult?
1871 census :-

James Allen 25
Eliza 60 Mother b Bedfordshire
Eliza Judd 36 Sister
Harrey Judd 11 Nephew
William Judd 9 Nephew
Alfred Judd 6 Nephew
Residing at Lancaster Street,  Southwark
Census ref RG10/604/28/55
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EDIT Emma JUDA ( as transcribed)  aged 14 b St Pancras is shown as Niece to a Jas Watson 40 and Emma 29 and family residing at Oak Village, St Pancras in 1871
Census ref RG10/246/34/61
Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

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Re: East London Romanies - SMITHERS/JUDD
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 30 April 17 07:00 BST (UK) »
We will check this, personally I do not have access to many of these records. Thank you

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Re: East London Romanies - SMITHERS/JUDD
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 30 April 17 07:17 BST (UK) »
You're in luck because FindMyPast is has free access to their birth, death, marriage and census records this weekend.  You will just need to register, which is free.