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1871 census David & Caroline Jones
« on: Saturday 29 April 17 18:46 BST (UK) »
This couple married Stockton on Tees Dec 1865 son Robert John was born October 1866 Middlesbrough(have birth cert) 1871 census has Robert John with his grandparents  Robert and Mary at York Street Normanby RG10 4855 34 21 (he is mistranscribed as Robert S son. Cannot find parents David and Caroline. Would appreciate help with this.
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Edwards Llanfyllin Wales Evans LLanfyllin Wales
Salmon(Lawrence)b.1847 Monaghan Ireland
Salmon(lawrence)1869 Darlington, died Stockton on Tees
Duffey Staffordshire
Morris LLanfyllin, David Edwards 1779 Llanrhaiader Wales

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Re: 1871 census David & Caroline Jones
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 29 April 17 19:05 BST (UK) »
Jones family on 1861 to give details for David

Llangattock RG9/4218 folio 41 pg 28
Robt Jones head mar 57 iron refiner b. Carms, Kidwelly
Mary wife 51 b. Breconshire, Llanfynyd?
David son 23 iron refiner b. Mon, Bedwellty
Eliza dau 20 servant b. Mon, Panteague
Rachel dau 12 b. Brec, Beaufort
Harriet dau 11 b. Beaufort
Joseph son 7 b. Beaufort
Sarah R Jones grand dau 6 b. Yorkshire, Middlesbro
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: 1871 census David & Caroline Jones
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 29 April 17 19:24 BST (UK) »
or it could be Caroline that is their daughter. Found them in Beaufort, Llangattock in 1851 and there's a daughter Caraline aged 8 born Breconshire. HO107/2490 folio 245 pg 28.

As you have the marriage cert, are Robert & Mary the parents of David or Caroline?



Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: 1871 census David & Caroline Jones
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 29 April 17 19:34 BST (UK) »
Robert and Mary are the parents of David.
Sheila
Edwards Llanfyllin Wales Evans LLanfyllin Wales
Salmon(Lawrence)b.1847 Monaghan Ireland
Salmon(lawrence)1869 Darlington, died Stockton on Tees
Duffey Staffordshire
Morris LLanfyllin, David Edwards 1779 Llanrhaiader Wales


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Re: 1871 census David & Caroline Jones
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 29 April 17 19:39 BST (UK) »
possible death reg

Caroline Jones 25 dec qtr 1868 Stockton vol 10a pg 28

Could you give some details, age, father's name for Caroline to help?
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: 1871 census David & Caroline Jones
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 29 April 17 20:19 BST (UK) »
Sorry don't have any more details for Caroline, have sent for marriage cert should be here next week.
The only info I  have on her was from Son Robert John's birth cert. Her name before marriage was also Jones.

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Edwards Llanfyllin Wales Evans LLanfyllin Wales
Salmon(Lawrence)b.1847 Monaghan Ireland
Salmon(lawrence)1869 Darlington, died Stockton on Tees
Duffey Staffordshire
Morris LLanfyllin, David Edwards 1779 Llanrhaiader Wales

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Re: 1871 census David & Caroline Jones
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 29 April 17 20:39 BST (UK) »
so, if you don't have the marriage cert, how do you know that Robert & Mary were the parents of David? Given that they are both Jones, the Caroline aged 8 on the 1851 census could be Robert John's mother and the David she married from another Jones family.

In 1861, Caroline aged 19 born Beaufort. Monmouthshire is in Middlesbrough, servant with a family named Roberts RG9/3686 folio 63 pg4.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXPS-H8C

This record shows her father to be Robert & his father John. Her age ties in with the family I've found and possibly the 1868 death reg.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: 1871 census David & Caroline Jones
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 29 April 17 21:10 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that Osprey, will come back  to this topic when I get
 the marriage certificate.
Edwards Llanfyllin Wales Evans LLanfyllin Wales
Salmon(Lawrence)b.1847 Monaghan Ireland
Salmon(lawrence)1869 Darlington, died Stockton on Tees
Duffey Staffordshire
Morris LLanfyllin, David Edwards 1779 Llanrhaiader Wales

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Re: 1871 census David & Caroline Jones
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 29 April 17 21:45 BST (UK) »
this may be David in 1871

Darlington St, Thornaby RG10/4900 folio 104 pg 23
David Jones head mar 30 foreman bricklayer
Mary wife 20
Edward brother 20 labourer
Thomas brother 14 apprentice bricklayer
all born South Wales

remarriage
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXP3-FLR
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb