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Re: Clark Family Orsett, Thurrock, Essex
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 03 May 17 16:38 BST (UK) »
This family might belong to
Albert and Rose Clark, that is all I can say a the moment !!!

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Re: Clark Family Orsett, Thurrock, Essex
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 03 May 17 16:39 BST (UK) »
This is becoming a complete puzzle

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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
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Re: Clark Family Orsett, Thurrock, Essex
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 03 May 17 17:05 BST (UK) »
Search of the 1939 Register free index
In Thurrock U.D.
Albert G Clark, born 1900
living with Beatrice R Clark

Alfred C Clark, born 1906
living with Violet M Clark
(can't find a birth reg for him)

Death -
October 1999 Thurrock
Albert George Clark
d-o-b 14 Oct 1900

March qtr 1946 Thurrock
Sutton, William John
age 88

Is it possible that Rose married again? Not sure that there is an obvious death as Sutton.
Dec 1952 Thurrock - Rose Sutton to Harry Scott

Death, June 1957 Thurrock
Scott, Rose
age 86

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Re: Clark Family Orsett, Thurrock, Essex
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 03 May 17 17:16 BST (UK) »
This is becoming a complete puzzle

It is! And it may turn out to be the wrong family in West Ham, but at least we can see them! It looks possible that after Albert's death, presumably in 1923, Rose Clark nee Ayling did indeed move away to the Thurrock area with most of those children.
That marriage certificate to William Sutton would help, I think.
John

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Re: Clark Family Orsett, Thurrock, Essex
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 03 May 17 20:40 BST (UK) »
JANE , DO YOU RECOGNISE THIS THIS NAME

there is a Queennie Clarke born 1905, mother's maiden name Brown living with other siblings with the mother's maiden name of Ayling

Queenie married Lloyd Armstrong 1925, they had one son but Queenie then married again to Edward Pease 1969

All in Thurrock

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Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
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Re: Clark Family Orsett, Thurrock, Essex
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 04 May 17 02:57 BST (UK) »
We'll soon know for sure as having spent hours on this family yesterday I ordered the birth certificate of William Edward Clark mmn Ayling and hopefully this will be the right birthdate and confirm parents names ensuring the right family has been found.  (Frustration got to me, I'm afraid).

If this is the right family, father 'George', mariner was actually Albert George, Dock Labourer, but childrens names don't quite match up with what was stated as can't find a Dorothy, Robert or Walter, only:

'Rose' could be Florence Rosie b.1899 Custom House mmn Ayling
Albert George b.1900 Custom House mmn Ayling
Queenie Louisa b.1904  Custom House (mmn Brown)
Alfred Charles b.1906 Leytonstone (mmn Brown)
Frederick Henry b.1909 Custom House (mmn Ayling)
William Edward b.5/6/1913 (mmn Ayling)

Will post as soon as I receive the birth certificate which will confirm the above (or not)!

According to census, this Rose was bc.1872 Worthing, Sussex (but there is no birth registration) and her parents are John Ayling bc.1847 Didling, Sussex (although he states Chichester in 1881) and Harriet bc.1856 Worthing BUT there is no marriage between a John Ayling and a Harriet and perhaps Harriet's maiden name was Brown which would therefore be Rose's 'legal' surname and why she married in that name.   Whilst using 'Ayling' on 4 of childrens births, another 2 shown as 'Brown'.

In 1891 Rose seems to be working as a servant but John, Harriet (and other dau. Jane) have with them Harriet, 4mos., granddaughter - this has to be Rose's child.

Birth certificate will confirm if the above is all correct.

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Re: Clark Family Orsett, Thurrock, Essex
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 04 May 17 07:24 BST (UK) »
Hi Everyone
M knows for sure his father William Edward Clark was born 5 June 1913 in London within the sound of Bow Bells. He was a Twin. The Twin died at birth.
William E. Clark married Ruth Bearman 1935 St Clements Church, Orsett, West Thurrock.
Ruth died first in 2003 and William Edward in hospital in Orsett within 3 months. Death registered in Brentwood.
William E Clark's daughter says her grandfather was George a Mariner. She and her other brother will meet shortly to sort out what information they have.
Joan

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Re: Clark Family Orsett, Thurrock, Essex
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 04 May 17 07:48 BST (UK) »
Annette I agree with yours and Jons finding but it still doesn't find the missing 3

Deaths same quarter that William was born West Ham 1913 June qtr
only list 2

Ada R  Maiden name of mother Good 
and
Hillyar, maiden name of  Boreham


I can only assume this child was a still born child in which case it wouldn't be listed

Look forward to any other info you can find Joan

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Census information is Crown Copyright,
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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes

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Re: Clark Family Orsett, Thurrock, Essex
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 04 May 17 08:56 BST (UK) »
Hi
Frederick apparently had a "Tipping Business" in the Thurrock Area. The holes left by the bombing were filled with rubble from the London areaI guess, then the area leveled and sold as grazing land. What metal found was resold as scrap. His son Colin worked with his father Fred. It was said that Colin had also being a Boxer. It must have been very lucrative for Colin to have his own Plane. Colin should still be alive. I don't know about Fred.
Joan