Clark Family Orsett, Thurrock, Essex

[joanearls]

Hi All. You are doing fantastic research for me which is much appreciated.
Rose was born in Worthing. George is still a Mariner but I feel that he was in fact a Docker. George died 7/3/1933 at age of 79 years (Doesn't fit with what we have so far) and interred in West Ham Cem.
Rose in a newspaper cutting when she married Harry Scott at the age of 81 states she has 13 children,23 Grand-children and 16 Great-children. It's difficult enough trying to find 7 never mind 13 children.
Frederick lived in Aveley , Essex had a son Alan, a Boxer died at age of 23-27 years in a fatal Road Traffic Accident on his Motorbike. He had a Helicopter. Frederick also had a daughter,
Walter had 2 boys and lived in Gravesend Kent. I think you cracked that with Alfred Charles Walter Clark m Violet Scott. Well done.
Doll. m Armstrong had 3 children, Gwen, Marjorie, And a Boy ? name.
Rose married a Mr Jex and had 2 daughters one named Beatrice.
There was also another daughter of Georges /rose namef Frances Louise who married someone named Damenack.

Hope you can help me unravel some more,

[louisa maud]

"Doll. m Armstrong had 3 children, Gwen, Marjorie, And a Boy ? name"

I think it was Queenie Louise who married Lloyd Armstrong who appears to have died in 1937 Orsett aged 38

Queenie L married Lloyd 1925

Queenie and Lloyd had
Lloyd born 1925
Marjorie 1927
Gwendoline 1929

Queenie married Edward Pease 1969

I cannot find a Dorothy that fits in, 13 children to Rose?,

The surname Damenack I cannot find at all so far

Louisa Maud

[louisa maud]

here we go again !!!!, surely not

Beatrice Edith Mabel Jex born 1886 West Ham MMN BROWN

B E M Jex died 20/03/1974 Wivenhoe

This child appears in a family by the name of Barker, then later as a step daughter to Barker, surely this is a coincidence

LM

[Annette7]

The confusing aspect here is that joanearls keeps referring to the names she knows them by and not what we have so far proved they were really called.

Rose's daughter 'Rose' was actually Florence Rosie at birth and Florence Rose when she died.   She married a John Frederick Jex in June quarter 1919 Orsett - they appear to have had 7 daughters BUT not one of them is named Beatrice or has even 'B' for their second name.

As to the Beatrice Edith Mabel Jex found by louisamaud - this is a 'red herring'.   She and older brother William (William Philip) b.1880 are in fact children of a Harry John Jex and an Agness Brown who married in 1877.   Harry died in 1888 and probably the reason that William and sister Beatrice are with Alice Barker in 1891.    Agnes Jex married an Edwin Barker in Jun.1891 and one would assume that Alice Barker is a relative of his.   

joanearls - as we keep saying, 'George, mariner' was actually an Albert George, docker - he was bc.1875 and died in Dec.qtr.1923 West Ham and Rose Clark, nee Brown, was a widow when she married William J. Sutton.  It's more than possible that on a day to day basis he went by the name of George.  By the last available census Albert George and Rose had had 6 children, one of whom had died - with the next being William Edward in 1913 (when Rose was c.43) there is no way she had another 6 children after 1913!!!   Perhaps when she referred to '13 children' she was including her Sutton stepchildren. Who knows?

As to Frances Louise Clark married to a Damenack?   First of all, this is not a valid surname (none at all in the whole of the UK) and there is no Frances Louise/Frances L. Clark born with a mmn of Ayling or Brown nor a marriage of a Frances L Clark to anything that remotely looks like Damenack.   

Annette
     

[louisa maud]

Oh Joan, With names and "known by names"  I am getting quite confused, it is getting a very big task now, some names don't seem to exist which makes it difficult as  Annette has pointed out, I think if you collate all of the info us Rootschaters have come up with and make it into a form of tree it might make sense, and then go forward from there, you will be surprised how much sense it  would make

Louisa Maud

[joanearls]

Hi
Thank you all so much for the most amazing help in making sense of all the information that was given to me in my search to create a Family Tree for my friend and finding out the actual truth from you all.
I totally except everything that you have found and from now on am going with your facts. I never expected to find such help available.
Once again a big Thank You to you all.
Best Wishes.
Joan

[louisa maud]

You are welcome  Joan

Pity they didn't use their  rightful names it would have been easier

Did you find the right name for the right surname Damenack?

LM

[Annette7]

Right - here we go.   Confirmed by birth certificate that we have found the right family.

William Edward Clark  born 5th June 1913 at 26 Frederick Road (sub district Canning Town, reg. district West Ham) son of Albert George Clark, Dock Labourer, and Rose Clark formerly Ayling.  Informant was A Clark, Father, 26 Frederick Road, Custom House (birth reg'd on 19th June 1913).

Annette

[louisa maud]

Well done Annettte, we did have that address on a census if I remember correctly, so it was Albert George and not George, it is often the  case over the years the names are not what we think they should be,in  my father's family the girls were often not called by their registered names, luckily I knew what and who they were

Hopefully Joan that helps

Happy Hunting

Louisa Maud