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Offline VictoriaJ

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What happened to Thomas ?
« on: Tuesday 02 May 17 09:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Guys

I have come across a little challenge and need some help ! Please be patient as I explain and hopefully someone can come up with some ideas :-))

My 3x great grandfather was called George Frederick Usher.  He was born 1836 in Sunderland, Durham to Edward Harvey Usher and Jane Symm (Simm).  George was the youngest of 8 children but unfortunately he died in the workhouse :(

I have traced all of George Frederick Ushers siblings with the exception of 1 - his older brother Thomas Usher who was born in 1830 in Edmundbyers, Durham.  Now, in 1851 Thomas is living with an older sister Mary Ann (Hodgson) in Bishopwearmouth in Durham and after that I cannot find him....

I recently purchased a copy of his fathers will (dated 1864) where Thomas inherits a small sum. He is obviously still alive (or thought to be) as there is no reference to him being deceased as with other siblings.  There is also no mention of him residing overseas.  In 1887 his Uncle, Joshua Robinson Symm - brother to mum Jane, dies and whilst his probate is proven, there are newspaper articles looking for next of kin.  In this article it states that they are looking for Thomas Usher who was last known to be residing in 1871 in either Adelaide or Kooringa Australia.  Thing is, whilst there are lots of Thomas Ushers, I can't find any who have a corresponding date of birth, place of birth, or parents listed (e.g. in a marriage or death).

So - can anyone help me shed any light on what happened to Thomas ?

Thanks !!
Victoria
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Re: What happened to Thomas ?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 02 May 17 12:22 BST (UK) »
Looks promising?

SA BDM marriage
1873 95/137  USHER  Thomas Robinson  m.   CULLINAN  Johanah     @   Adelaide 

death
1890 184/224  USHER  Thomas Robinson  @ Norwood   

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Re: What happened to Thomas ?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 02 May 17 12:33 BST (UK) »
The Advertiser 10 Mar 1890 p4
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/24495367?
..death notice...aged 46 years.........

Possibly NOK to your Joshua Robinson Symm?

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Re: What happened to Thomas ?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 02 May 17 12:46 BST (UK) »
Looks promising?

SA BDM marriage
1873 95/137  USHER  Thomas Robinson  m.   CULLINAN  Johanah     @   Adelaide 

death
1890 184/224  USHER  Thomas Robinson  @ Norwood   


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[Parents]   Edward Harvey Usher and Jane Symm (Simm)
Thomas Usher who was born in 1830 in Edmundbyers, Durham.
Victoria


Not the right Thomas.    This Thomas born c1844

Marriage
USHER Thomas Robinson  29 years  Status Single  Father William USHER
CULLINAN Johanah 33 years  Status Single  Father John CULLINAN
14 Apr 1873
At the residence of Samuel Bradley, Kilkenny   Ade 95/137

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Re: What happened to Thomas ?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 02 May 17 13:01 BST (UK) »
This appears to be his birth
Births Jun 1843   
USHER    Thomas        Thrapstone    15/378

Baptism
USHER Thomas Robinson
Baptism     27 Aug 1843 Thrapston, Northamptonshire, England
Parents William and Mary Ann.

This appears to be his parents' marriage.
Marriages Sep 1842 
ROBINSON    Marianne   Thrapstone    15/435   
USHER    William         Thrapston    15/435

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Re: What happened to Thomas ?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 02 May 17 13:10 BST (UK) »
death
1890 184/224  USHER  Thomas Robinson  @ Norwood   

He could still be the next-of-kin, the story does not say the NOK is brother Thomas, b. 1830, or his descendant.

If  NOK is thought to be in Australia, should there be a notice in Australian paper?

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Re: What happened to Thomas ?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 02 May 17 20:26 BST (UK) »
Good Morning !

Yes, sorry I should have probably said that I had discounted that specific Thomas Robinson Usher.  I was initially very excited about him as the name Robinson comes from his grandmother (Joshua Robinson Symms mother), however looking back through the UK census and baptisms etc they are not related (at least in the time frames I am looking for!!!).

Its an interesting point about the advert in the Australian papers.  I have looked in Trove and not found anything but perhaps will look specifically around the time it was in the UK paper (1939).  I will also try and put the article up this evening.

Thanks !!
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Re: What happened to Thomas ?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 02 May 17 22:01 BST (UK) »
There are notices in the UK papers

Newcastle Evening Chronicle 07 March 1939

Giving the details you mentioned for Thomas, Mary is now McFadyen, have attached the bottom part referring to the family
Willsy

Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: What happened to Thomas ?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 02 May 17 22:15 BST (UK) »
 Truth 7 Dec 1947 p63  column 3 ( a Sydney, NSW, newspaper)
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/168782230?

I read your story to be that the newspaper article was contemporary with the death...1887?

Can you confirm please that you are referring to a newspaper article, 1939, which relates to the death 1887.

Can you show all of the article that you are seeing.