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An elusive Family from the Frome area
« on: Friday 05 May 17 11:18 BST (UK) »
I am seeking a marriage for a male HODDINOTT and Hannah FURSMAN or FURZMAN; could it have been a second marriage?

I have found on https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp from 1863 onwards 6 births with the mothers surname as FURSMAN.

William HODDINOTT born 1q 1863 Frome 5c 616
Frederick Walter HODDINOTT born 1q 1865 Frome 5c 621
Alfred HODDINOTT born 3q 1869 Frome 5c 523
Hugh Joseph HODDINOTT born 3q 1873 Frome 5c 533
Alice Mary HODDINOTT born 1q 1878 Frome 5c 489
Edward HODDINOTT born 1q 1879 Frome 5c 505; died 1q 1879 Frome 5c 413

Any help in finding out more would be welcome. :)

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Re: An elusive Family from the Frome area
« Reply #1 on: Friday 05 May 17 11:29 BST (UK) »
I am struggling to find any of them on 1871 (the 3 born before 1871 I mean) - have you got the family on that census?   Seeing the family as a whole may give some clues - (eg there may be older children indicating a marriage earlier than you would think, or there may be step children indication a second marriage.)   The fact that more children are born after 1871 suggests that the family are together in 1871, not that either party has died.

PS cant see them on 1881 either

PPS - how do you know these children's mum was called Hannah?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: An elusive Family from the Frome area
« Reply #2 on: Friday 05 May 17 11:33 BST (UK) »
Found on https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/

Charles HODDINOTT Age 21 & Zilliah FURSMAN Age 20; 28 Aug 1851 at Frome Holy Trinity Church.

Would this marriage be the right one? :-\
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Re: An elusive Family from the Frome area
« Reply #3 on: Friday 05 May 17 11:38 BST (UK) »
Here are Chalres and Zillah in 1861, already with a good brood of children -

1861
Cross Str , Frome
Charles Hoddinot 29 Butcher and dealer
Zillah 28
Benjamin C 9
George 7
Richard 5
Emily 3
Joseph 1
Edward 3 mths

all bn Frome
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: An elusive Family from the Frome area
« Reply #4 on: Friday 05 May 17 11:41 BST (UK) »
Chalres and Zillah have moved to Wales by 1871

1871
Roath, Glamorgan
Charles 39 labourer
Zillah 39
William 18
Richard 15
Lydia 12
Edwin 11
David 9
Alfred 7  all above bn Frome
Albert 3 bn Merthyr Tydfil
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: An elusive Family from the Frome area
« Reply #5 on: Friday 05 May 17 11:43 BST (UK) »
Snap! just found them in 1861 as well ;D

Thank you for the 1871 census details
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Re: An elusive Family from the Frome area
« Reply #6 on: Friday 05 May 17 11:43 BST (UK) »
They are still in Roath in 1881, (under Chalres and Zela Odnet)

So they don't look likely to be the parents of the children that you listed. I think we can rule them out.
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DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: An elusive Family from the Frome area
« Reply #7 on: Friday 05 May 17 11:48 BST (UK) »
Zillah is around in 1841/1851 with her family - maybe one of her sisters also married a Hoddinot  :-\

Jane 15 in 1841
Naomi 13 in 1841 - not her she marries a Harris

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Re: An elusive Family from the Frome area
« Reply #8 on: Friday 05 May 17 11:52 BST (UK) »
Ah I see where you got Hannah from

1891

Hannah Hoddinott 46 widow
Hugh Joseph 17
Alice Mary 13

1881

Joseph Hoddinott 66
Hanah 36
Alfred 14
Hugh 7
Allice 3

Despite the age difference Joseph and Hannah are down as married head and wife
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