Author Topic: Anne Everley b. c1805 poss. Hopton AND Edward Williams b. c1805 poss Little Ness  (Read 1384 times)

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Oops, Keyboard. Yes, I need to check the 1841 for Little Ness.

Thanks for the updates on Ann's parents.

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John
Owens-Swansea/Wallasey/Garston,L’pool
Jones-Erbistock/Widnes
Allen-Tetsworth/Hoole/Runcorn/St.Helens/Iowa/Kansas/Nebraska
Yieveley/Yevily/Everley/Heviley-Little Ness,Salop/Oldbury/St Helens/Garston,L'pool
Davies-Holywell,Garston,L'pool
Ithel-Bagilt,Mold
Fletcher-Rainhill/Widnes
Hughes-Marchwiel,Bangor-Is-Coed,Denbs
Thomas-Oswestry, Salop/Liverpool
Cole-Cliffe Peppard/Lyneham, Wilts
Frawley-Rathkeale, Co. Limerick
Conway-Coolanoran,Co.Limerick
Dinneen-Ballingarry,Co. Limerick

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I note Ann gives various places of birth other than Hopton ( Hopton Wafers perhaps) 
Keyboard86

Hopton Wafers seems unlikely since it appears to be miles away from Little Ness. Hopton must have been a tiny village that, maybe, has gone out of existence.

Onward

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Owens-Swansea/Wallasey/Garston,L’pool
Jones-Erbistock/Widnes
Allen-Tetsworth/Hoole/Runcorn/St.Helens/Iowa/Kansas/Nebraska
Yieveley/Yevily/Everley/Heviley-Little Ness,Salop/Oldbury/St Helens/Garston,L'pool
Davies-Holywell,Garston,L'pool
Ithel-Bagilt,Mold
Fletcher-Rainhill/Widnes
Hughes-Marchwiel,Bangor-Is-Coed,Denbs
Thomas-Oswestry, Salop/Liverpool
Cole-Cliffe Peppard/Lyneham, Wilts
Frawley-Rathkeale, Co. Limerick
Conway-Coolanoran,Co.Limerick
Dinneen-Ballingarry,Co. Limerick

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Hi again also baptisms Oswestry, St Oswald's

Elizth Yeveley born 28th May 1800 baptism 4th June 1800

Mary Yeveley born 29th March 1803 baptism 3rd April 1803
Father Thomas Mother Elizabeth
Keyboard86

Thanks for these, Keyboard - but the first Elizabeth (born 28th May 1800 baptism 4th June 1800) does not square with the 12 August 1800 marriage of Thos and Elizabeth @ St. Oswald's - but I see mother Elizabeth's maiden name, Ellis. It would be good to see whether the original has the parents married.

Also I cannot find the burials you sent me yesterday on Anc. Mind, the Anc search facility is pretty brutal:


"Burial
Thomas Yeveley 26th February 1842 Baschurch aged 78
Elizabeth Yeveley 31st March 1847 aged 78
Both show as Daleswood or Daleswood Lane Little Ness"

Copuld you help further pls?

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John
Owens-Swansea/Wallasey/Garston,L’pool
Jones-Erbistock/Widnes
Allen-Tetsworth/Hoole/Runcorn/St.Helens/Iowa/Kansas/Nebraska
Yieveley/Yevily/Everley/Heviley-Little Ness,Salop/Oldbury/St Helens/Garston,L'pool
Davies-Holywell,Garston,L'pool
Ithel-Bagilt,Mold
Fletcher-Rainhill/Widnes
Hughes-Marchwiel,Bangor-Is-Coed,Denbs
Thomas-Oswestry, Salop/Liverpool
Cole-Cliffe Peppard/Lyneham, Wilts
Frawley-Rathkeale, Co. Limerick
Conway-Coolanoran,Co.Limerick
Dinneen-Ballingarry,Co. Limerick

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Re baptism of Elizabeth Yeveley 1800, why not maybe they were living as man/wife?
Keyboard86

PS Burials on FindMyPast
Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

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Hopton is in the parish of Great Ness, south of Ruyton XI Towns. It's a small hamlet.

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Hopton is in the parish of Great Ness, south of Ruyton XI Towns. It's a small hamlet.

Wonderful. Many thanks, Mike. Nailed that one.

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John
Owens-Swansea/Wallasey/Garston,L’pool
Jones-Erbistock/Widnes
Allen-Tetsworth/Hoole/Runcorn/St.Helens/Iowa/Kansas/Nebraska
Yieveley/Yevily/Everley/Heviley-Little Ness,Salop/Oldbury/St Helens/Garston,L'pool
Davies-Holywell,Garston,L'pool
Ithel-Bagilt,Mold
Fletcher-Rainhill/Widnes
Hughes-Marchwiel,Bangor-Is-Coed,Denbs
Thomas-Oswestry, Salop/Liverpool
Cole-Cliffe Peppard/Lyneham, Wilts
Frawley-Rathkeale, Co. Limerick
Conway-Coolanoran,Co.Limerick
Dinneen-Ballingarry,Co. Limerick

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Re baptism of Elizabeth Yeveley 1800, why not maybe they were living as man/wife?
Keyboard86

PS Burials on FindMyPast

Many thanks again, Keyboard. Would be interested see whether the original showed the child Eliz as "base born" or other similar ascription. That might have been deal with the church: they had to get married, which they did a few months later. Some stricter vicars would not do that, however.

Will check FindMyPast for these burials. Thanks

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John
Owens-Swansea/Wallasey/Garston,L’pool
Jones-Erbistock/Widnes
Allen-Tetsworth/Hoole/Runcorn/St.Helens/Iowa/Kansas/Nebraska
Yieveley/Yevily/Everley/Heviley-Little Ness,Salop/Oldbury/St Helens/Garston,L'pool
Davies-Holywell,Garston,L'pool
Ithel-Bagilt,Mold
Fletcher-Rainhill/Widnes
Hughes-Marchwiel,Bangor-Is-Coed,Denbs
Thomas-Oswestry, Salop/Liverpool
Cole-Cliffe Peppard/Lyneham, Wilts
Frawley-Rathkeale, Co. Limerick
Conway-Coolanoran,Co.Limerick
Dinneen-Ballingarry,Co. Limerick

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 :) Lovely wording by the clerk re the baptism of Elizabeth Yeveley :-

Elizth a base daughter of Thos Yeveley by the body of Elizabeth Ellis
Keyboard86

EDIT Re the "situation" of Edward from c 1826 what are your thoughts on the fact he states his father is a William occ Groom at marriage,  William Walker returns to being a "Gentleman's Groom in later census?
Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

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:) Lovely wording by the clerk re the baptism of Elizabeth Yeveley :-

Elizth a base daughter of Thos Yeveley by the body of Elizabeth Ellis
Keyboard86

EDIT Re the "situation" of Edward from c 1826 what are your thoughts on the fact he states his father is a William occ Groom at marriage,  William Walker returns to being a "Gentleman's Groom in later census?


Ha, so the minister was strict and labelled the child "base born"! Yes, lovely wording.

Yes, I noticed the common element: Either 3rd gt gran Ann liked grooms or somehow Edward Williams changed his name to Walker, although by 1871 he had been relegated to jobbing labourer. Hmm. But, Wm Walker was born in Rushton, Cotebrook, Cheshire, England whereas Edward Williams lived in Little Ness at the time of Ann's birth.

So, Ann liked grooms, I think.

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John
Owens-Swansea/Wallasey/Garston,L’pool
Jones-Erbistock/Widnes
Allen-Tetsworth/Hoole/Runcorn/St.Helens/Iowa/Kansas/Nebraska
Yieveley/Yevily/Everley/Heviley-Little Ness,Salop/Oldbury/St Helens/Garston,L'pool
Davies-Holywell,Garston,L'pool
Ithel-Bagilt,Mold
Fletcher-Rainhill/Widnes
Hughes-Marchwiel,Bangor-Is-Coed,Denbs
Thomas-Oswestry, Salop/Liverpool
Cole-Cliffe Peppard/Lyneham, Wilts
Frawley-Rathkeale, Co. Limerick
Conway-Coolanoran,Co.Limerick
Dinneen-Ballingarry,Co. Limerick