Help with Doherty family Roscommon please

[Washy]

Hi Everyone trying to connect a Thomas Doherty with his family, he's in England on the 1901 census and died in England 1951.
Thomas Doherty
Ireland Births and Baptisms
Name   Thomas Doherty
Gender   Male
Birth Date   29 Dec 1877
Birthplace   Ireland
Father's Name   Michael Doherty
Mother's Name   Bridget Mcgreal Doherty same birth date he gave on the 1939 reg.

found this but not convinced his parents
 1901 Residents of a house 33 in Cloonlumney (Edmondstown, Roscommon)
Surname   Forename   Age   Sex   Relation to head   Religion   Birthplace   Occupation   Literacy   Irish Language   Marital Status   Specified Illnesses
Doherty   Michael   55   Male   Head of Family   Roman Catholic   Co Mayo   Farmer   Cannot read   Irish and English   Married   -
Doherty   Bridget    52   Female   Wife   Roman Catholic   Co Mayo   -   Cannot read   Irish and English   Married   -
Doherty   James               13   Male   Son   Roman Catholic   Co Mayo   Scholar   Read and write   -   Not Married

Don't know where to go from here any help appreciated

[heywood]

Hi Washy,

Your information is a bit difficult to follow - it is best to transcribe the information rather than just copy and paste with all the added bits 

Where is Thomas in England in 1901?
Are you saying that the baptism is him and therefore those parents?
Have you checked 1911 for the family you have posted re the numbers of children born etc?

Regards
Heywood

[Washy]

Hi heywood Thomas is in Manchester 1901. 1911 married living in Salford. Has birth as 29th Dec 1877 on 1939 reg & found birth on family search site. Have tried looking for family in Ireland 1911 but can't find them in Roscommon. Have info that Thomas was born on farm & his daughter visited it which I think was after his death in 1951 & family still there that's why not convince this is his family. Sorry about the added bits

[heywood]

Do you have his father from the marriage certificate?

[heywood]

I can only see him in 1911 - if that is him- and we are not allowed to post details as you know but there are relatives with him whose names may be useful for searching.

[Washy]

I know but saying that, before I knew his birth date found a family in Roscommon which fit perfectly but parent where Martin & Ellen Doherty which fit a Thomas born 15th Dec 1877 on family search site    had all the family names including a Dominic, Thomas had a son Dominic but he died not long after birth.
 
He has a brother Martin born abt 1881 Roscommon but he is on the 1901 census Manchester
Children Thomas, Alice, Michael, Dominic, Mary, Martin, Frances, James & Kathleen.
Only have this for marriage
Thomas Doherty Mary CAMPBELL 1903 Chorlton-on-Medlock Register Office or Registrar Attended. Archives+, Manchester Central Library CHO_RM/163/8

[heywood]

There is this birth for Thomas with mother McGreal.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02972/2088860.pdf

[heywood]

Then there are two similar ones for Martin- this is the one with the same townland

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1881/02823/2035978.pdf

[heywood]

This is the other for a Martin but different townland and date of birth.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1881/02812/2031626.pdf