Pleasant Place South Shields. Where was it?

[PaulThommo]

Trying to locate Pleasant Place in South Shields. Ancestors of mine were living there in the 1851 census. I think it was around the Nelsons Bank & Cone Street area of East Holborn but having looked at a couple of old South Shields maps online I am unable to find it. South Tyneside council on their online history section have a couple of photo's of Pleasant Place taken in 1902 and 1934 but no mention of where it was. Anyone any ideas?
Thanking you, Paul Thompson

[stanmapstone]

According to the 1911 Census it was next to Corporation Quay. See the map at https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/435846/566842/13/101249 and reduce the zoom level.

Stan

[Mart 'n' Al]

This site

http://www.southtynesideimages.org.uk/newsite/frontend.php?action=zoom&keywords=Ref_No_increment;MATCHES;(%5E%7C%20+)STH0010527($%7C%20+)&continueUrl=ZnJvbnRlbmQucGhwPyZzZWFyY2h0ZXJtcz0mYWN0aW9uPXNlYXJjaCZrZXl3b3Jkcz0mcGFnZXM9MTIwJnBhZ2U9NzU=

suggests it is near 'Mill Dam'.

[stanmapstone]

The map I gave shows Mill Dam to the north.

Stan

[PaulThommo]

This site

http://www.southtynesideimages.org.uk/newsite/frontend.php?action=zoom&keywords=Ref_No_increment;MATCHES;(%5E%7C%20+)STH0010527($%7C%20+)&continueUrl=ZnJvbnRlbmQucGhwPyZzZWFyY2h0ZXJtcz0mYWN0aW9uPXNlYXJjaCZrZXl3b3Jkcz0mcGFnZXM9MTIwJnBhZ2U9NzU=

suggests it is near 'Mill Dam'.

Thanks Mart 'N' Al, managed to find a few more old photo's of Pleasant Place in South Tyneside history, one photo states that a gable in the background is in Cone Street, another states that it was close to Commercial Road and another states it was in Forest Hill. All of these are close to each other. There is an area on the map that Stanmapstone provided and there is an area just north of Cone Street and below the wording Forest Hill that isn't marked at all but could well be Pleasant Place. I can't find the name on any map I have looked at and as my ansestors lived at no. 93 it wasn't a small street. Many thanks for your assistance, much appreciated. Paul Thompson

[PaulThommo]

According to the 1911 Census it was next to Corporation Quay. See the map at https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/435846/566842/13/101249 and reduce the zoom level.

Stan

Stan, once again thank you for your prompt assistance. I managed to find a few more old photo's of Pleasant Place in South Tyneside history, one photo states that a gable in the background is in Cone Street, another states that it was close to Commercial Road and another states it was in Forest Hill. All of these are close to each other. There is an area on the map that you provided and there is an area just north of Cone Street and below the wording Forest Hill that isn't marked at all but could well be Pleasant Place. I can't find the name on any map I have looked at and as my ansestors lived at no. 93 it wasn't a small street. Can you define the word 'place' to me it is a gathering of dwellings around something similar to a 'square' and my which on the map looks as though it could be correct.Many thanks for your help, much appreciated. Paul Thompson

[stanmapstone]

There were only 9 houses in Pleasant Place, in the 1861, and 1911 censuses. In 1861 9 Pleasant Place is followed by 9 Cone Street. It looks as though Pleasant Place was that part of Nelson's Bank just before Cone Street .
https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/435927/566672/13/101249
This advert from the  Shields Daily Gazette - Monday 25 September 1876, mentions 12,13 , 14, and 15 Pleasant Place or Nelson's Bank, but in the 1871 census there are only 1 to 10 Pleasant Place.
Other adverts say that houses in Pleasant Place had frontage on Commercial Road
Stan

[stanmapstone]

Place, from the OED A small residential square or a side street (esp. a cul-de-sac) lined with houses; a short row of houses which originally stood by themselves or on a suburban road; any group of houses not properly classifiable as a street.

For example see Upper Trafalgar Place on this map https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/375044/164144/13/100303 or  Withy Place on this map https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/356549/426048/13/101329

Stan

[stanmapstone]

I think the houses shown on this photograph http://www.rootschat.com/links/01k34/  could be the ones on the map at https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/435905/566762/13/101249
From the Shields Daily Gazette - Saturday 27 January 1883, you can see the flight of steps next to the public house.

Stan