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From Scotland to Australia Mary McKenna
« on: Saturday 13 May 17 08:25 BST (UK) »
Looking for immigration records for Mary McKenna's arrival in Australia.  The first bit of information I have on her in Australia is her daughters Mary Catherine Birth Certificate January 1874 in Brisbane Queensland.  It states Mother 18 years of age from Scotland. No father listed.  Her second daughter Emma Theresa born 1876 Bowen Queensland shows mother Mary McKenna 20 years Glasgow again no father listed.  Her first marriage to John Turner 1876 states spinster Glasgow Scotland 21 years.  Parents Alexander McKenna - Engineer and Mary Anne Copeland.  Her 2nd marriage in 1878 to George Bourne age 22 years Glasgow Scotland parents Alexander McKenna - Engineer and Mary Anne Copleden

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Re: From Scotland to Australia Mary McKenna
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 13 May 17 21:51 BST (UK) »
Hi coola2,

Here are some immigration records for Queensland - those with assisted passage between 1848-1912.   There are several entries for Mary McKenna's but most are after the desired time.   There is one for a Mary McKenna who arrived in 1872 on the Polmaise aged about 20.

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Re: From Scotland to Australia Mary McKenna
« Reply #2 on: Monday 15 May 17 07:43 BST (UK) »
Is this your family?

QLD BDM births
1874 B16876 Mary Catherine McKENNA  parents - /Mary McKENNA
1876 C81      Emma Theresa  McKENNA  parents - / Mary McKENNA 

QLD BDM marriage
1876 C14 John TURNER    m.    Mary McKenna
1878 C712 Mary TURNER   m.   George BOURNE

QLD BDM births
1878 C4369 BOURNE George Thomas  parents BOURNE George / Mary Turner McKENNA
1880 C4992 BOURNE Harriett Amelia Maud parents  BOURNE George / Mary McKANNA
1886 C4055 COPELAND James  parents - /  Mary COPELAND

QLD BDM death
1900 C2149 BOURNE Mary parents -  Alexand McKENNA

Can you please list all the details from the two marriage certificates for Mary McKenna.

Do you have her death certificate?

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Re: From Scotland to Australia Mary McKenna
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 16 May 17 01:56 BST (UK) »
Yes, this is my family, but I have no information on James Copeland.
1st Marriage.
11th May 1876 Bowen, Queensland.
John Turner - Widower - Glasgow Scotland - Engineer - 53 years of age parents William Turner and Margaret Macdonald.
Mary McKenna - Spinster - Glasgow Scotland - Servant - 21 years of age parents Alexander McKenna - Engineer - Mary Anne Copeland.
Married in the Trinity Church Bowen.
2nd Marriage
22nd May 1878 at Stewarts Town, Queensland.
George Bourne - Bachelor - Aberdeen Hunter River N.S.W. - Miner - 34 years of age. Parents Thomas Bourne and Emma Warner.
Mary Turner - Widow - Glasgow Scotland - 22 years of age parents Alexander McKenna - Engineer - Mary Anne Copleden.
Witness John Newell and Hector McKenzie.
Married in the Town of Stewart Town.
Have Mary Catherine Birth Certificate.
29th January 1874 - Mary Catherine - Lying Hospital - Illegitimate - Mother Mary formerly McKenna 18 years of Scotland.
Death of Mary Bourne
Occupation - Housewife
Age - 44 years
Date of Death - 16th October 1900
Place of Death - Hughenden
Where born and period of residence in Australia - Scotland 27 years in Queensland
Parents - Alexand McKenna
Occupation - Engineer
Marriage(s) - Byerstown, Queensland, 19 years, George Bourne
Children-
Emma 22 years
George 21 years
Harriet 20 years
Mary Sarah 18 years
Medical
Cause of Death - Alcohol, fully degeneration of heart, syncope
Burial or Cremation - 16th October 1900 Hughenden
Informant. Name, description or relationship, and residence.
J. Elliott, None, Living with deceased, Hughenden.

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Re: From Scotland to Australia Mary McKenna
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 16 May 17 02:18 BST (UK) »
Have Birth Certificate for Emma Theresa.
Born 9th March 1876 - Bowen - Illigitimate.
Mother - Mary McKenna 20 years of age, Glasgow Scotland

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Re: From Scotland to Australia Mary McKenna
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 16 May 17 09:11 BST (UK) »
Already noted from BDM Index QLD, these births to Mary McKENNA

1874 B16876 Mary Catherine McKENNA  parents - /Mary McKENNA
1876 C81      Emma Theresa  McKENNA  parents - / Mary McKENNA 
1878 C4369 BOURNE George Thomas  parents BOURNE George / Mary Turner McKENNA
1880 C4992 BOURNE Harriett Amelia Maud parents  BOURNE George / Mary McKANNA

From death certificate for Mary BOURNE nee McKENNA d. 1900 -
Emma 22 years
George 21 years
Harriet 20 years
Mary Sarah 18 years

The informant, death certificate 1900, seems to know a lot about Mary BOURNE. Assuming the birth order on the death certificate is correct, does that mean that-

Mary Catherine McKENNA. b. 1874 has died by 1900?.
Mary Sarah is born ~ 1882, and if her birth was registered in QLD, it is not McKENNA or TURNER or BOURNE?

You have the birth certificate for Emma Theresa McKENNA, b. 1876, which suggests that you are researching this person?

What marriage and death details do you have for Emma Theresa?

This for Mary Sarah BOURNE, from BDM QLD Index -

marriage
1898   C1008   BOURNE Mary Sarah   m.   BROOMHALL Thomas Charles   

births
1899   C5387   BROMHALL Lewis James  parents   Thomas Charles / Mary Sarah BOURNE
1900   C5787   BROMHALL George Thomas   parents   Thomas Charles / Mary Sarah BOURNE
1903   C4892   BROMHALL Ruby Carney parents   Thomas Charles / Mary Sarah BOURNE   

1922   C4974   BLESSINGTON Emma Kathleen / Kathline  parents Saunders/Mary Sarah BOURNE
1922   C4975   BLESSINGTON Mary Elizabeth    parents Saunders/Mary Sarah BOURNE
1922   C4976   BLESSINGTON john                  parents Saunders/Mary Sarah BOURNE

marriage
1920   C306    BOURNE  Mary Sarah m.  BLESSINGTON Saunders   

death
1943   C4402   BLESSINGTON Mary Sarah   parents BOURNE George / McKENNA Mary

What witnesses names do you see for marriage certificate, 1876, McKENNA - TURNER?   
   


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Re: From Scotland to Australia Mary McKenna
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 16 May 17 11:40 BST (UK) »
Have copy of Mary Sarah Birth Certificate.
Born 29th Nov 1881 Hughenden to James Elliott, 25 years - Occupation Carrier - Devonshire England - Illegitimate.  Mother Mary Kenna 25 years Glasgow Scotland.

Mary Sarah was originally registered as George Bourne as father.

James Elliott Death Certificate Feb 1937 Charters Towers shows children Mary Sarah 57 years.

Mary Catherine died 23 days after birth.

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Re: From Scotland to Australia Mary McKenna
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 16 May 17 22:25 BST (UK) »
There is no connection between Taylor - McKenna.
Mary McKenna never married James Elliott so she continued her life as Mary Bourne and gave her daughter the surname of Bourne not Elliott. Do not know why her Death Certificate shows father as George Bourne. Maybe she did not know who her true father was
Saunders Blessington who married Mary Sarah Bourne is my grandfather that is why I am trying to locate Mary McKenna's arrival.

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Re: From Scotland to Australia Mary McKenna
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 16 May 17 23:07 BST (UK) »
At my reply #7 I incorrectly used the name TAYLOR, which I have now corrected to be TURNER.

Do you have the name of witnesses on the McKENNA - TURNER marriage certificate.

".....Do not know why her Death Certificate shows father as George Bourne. "

Who's death certificate are you is this......Mary Sarah BLESSINGTON?

The amount, and accuracy of information on a death certificate will depend on what the informant knows, and / or chooses to disclose. Who is the informant for Mary Sarah's death certificate?

Mary Sarah marries as BOURNE, so it could be that her marriage certificate shows George BOURNE as her father, and that marriage certificate information was used for her death certificate.

Continuing with the matter of death certificates, James ELLIOTT appears later in Mary McKenna's life, so might not know what children she has had, or her marital history. I think there are possibly more births / deaths of children of Mary McKenna to find.

Can you list all information on death certificate of James ELLIOTT  d. 1937.


My reply #5 - Can you consider this please -

You have the birth certificate for Emma Theresa McKENNA, b. 1876, which suggests that you are researching this person?

What marriage and death details do you have for Emma Theresa?