James CLINTON, born 1835, Cheltenham

[BAC3]

Hello,

James CLINTON's father, a Baker, "ran away" (from home?) on 21/03/1849, his wife had died 7 years previously.    Both parents' names unknown.  He had a brother John who was in Cheltenham's Union Workhouse where, apparently, James CLINTON had spent the last 7 years dating back from 28/03/1849.   He was sentenced to a week in prison on this latter date and made all these comments.

He was sentenced to 7 years transportation on 07/08/1850, which was commuted, and he was released early on 28/12/1855........his stated destination was "Gone to sea".   I can find no information for him after this date, except the possibilities suggested by the 1861 and 1871 England Census.   My difficulty with these is that:

(1):     1861 has him married to Emma (RG9/2099/101, p.7):

(2):     1871 has him married to Charlotte (RG10/2680/22, p.15) but I can find no death entry for
           Emma.

Can anyone suggest, or possibly find, definitive entries for him please

Thank you.

BAC3

[Capetown]

As you talking about:

Gloucestershire baptisms - just one listed for

James CLINTON - occupation: Baker


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Cheltenham St Mary :

3 June 1835

Samuel James : Parents: James (occupation: baker) & Maria CLINTON


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CLINTON burials at Gloucester St Mary

include:

Maria CLINTON : 4 February 1840 aged 35
James CLINTON : 13 July 1835 aged 35


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Family Search

Marriage at St Andrew Pershore, Worcestershire

10 December 1832

James CLINTON/Maria DONES


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1861 Census, Ripple, Worcestershire

James CLINTON, 26, married: Gardener, Head of Family born 1835 Cheltenham
Emma CLINTON, wife 25, born Cheltenham


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Family Search

James CLINTON married Emma BARKER, 26 August 1860: Upton on Severn, Worcestershire
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Freereg

Marriage at St Peter and St Paul, Upton on Severn, Worcestershire

26 August 1860

James CLINTON aged 26 (c1834)

Bachelor, abode: Pig Market, occupation: Labourer

Emma BARKER aged 24 (c1836) abode: Pig Market

Groom's father: James CLINTON (occupation: Baker)

Bride's father: Samuel BARKER, (occupation: Labourer)


witnesses: William GRIFFIN and Jane BUTLER

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1841 Census, Upton on Severn, Worcestershire

Mary MEED or NEED - 60 Ind - all born in County
Jane FARLEY - 30
William FARLEY - 6
John FARLEY - 5
William MEED or NEED - 20
Thomas MEED or NEED - 15
James CLINTON - 7 (not born in County)


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1851 census Worcestershire, Upton on Severn

Samuel CLINTON - 80 Farm Labourer, born U-o-S
Mary CLINTON - 57 - born Hartpury, Gloucestershire
+ Grand-daughter

[Ladyhawk]

1861 Census, Ripple, Worcestershire

James CLINTON, 26, married: Gardener, Head of Family born 1835 Cheltenham
Emma CLINTON, wife 25, born Cheltenham

Freereg

Marriage at St Peter and St Paul, Upton on Severn, Worcestershire

26 August 1860

James CLINTON aged 26 (c1834)

Bachelor, abode: Pig Market, occupation: Labourer

Emma BARKER aged 24 (c1836) abode: Pig Market

Groom's father: James CLINTON (occupation: Baker)

Bride's father: Samuel BARKER, (occupation: Labourer)

witnesses: William GRIFFIN and Jane BUTLER

FreeBMD has her surname as BARTER 

Marriages
Sep 1860 Upton   6c   439
Barter   Emma

Do you think this might be the same person?

1851 census HO107; Piece: 1973; Folio: 942; Page: 10
16 Hatherby St
surname BARTER
Samuel Mar. 50 Stroud  occ Labourer
George son 22 lab.        ‘’
Ester wife 50                 ’’
Charles son 17 Cheltenham
EMMA 16            “
John H 13             “

Then there's this baptism

Emma Matilda BARTER
Baptism    16 Aug 1835 Cheltenham, St Mary, Gloucestershire, England
F. Samuel Barter occ Lab. m Esther
Register TParish Registers

Then there's this marriage 

26 Dec 1863 St Philip, Bethnal Green
Emma Matilda BARTER age 28 Widow
Isaac Samuel Hall age 40 widower, general dealer
Father Samuel William BARTER, occ. sweep 
grooms father Edward Hall
Register Type:   Parish Register
Both made their mark (x) as did witnesses
Thomas Milton & Amy Hall

1891 RG12; Piece: 347; Folio: 123; Page: 48; Civil Parish: St George the Martyr
Isaac S HALL age 65
EMMA 55 Cheltenham
Wm M 22 born St George’s

ADDED
       
William Mortimer Hall born 23 July 1870
Baptism 23 Jul 1871 Southwark St Saviour
Father   Isaac Samuel Hall, general dealer
Mother   Emma Matilda
Register Type:   Parish Registers

Annie Matilda Hall born 7th Feb 1868
Baptism 14 Jun 1868 Bethnal Green St Philip
Father   Isaac Samuel Hall
Mother   Emma Matilda Hall
Register Type:   Parish Registers

Charles Mathew Hall born 27th Oct 1865
Baptism 12 Nov 1865 Lambeth St John the Evangelist
Father   Isaac Samuel Hall
Mother   Emma Matilda Hall
Register Type:   Parish Registers

Thomas Samuel Hall
Baptism 21 Nov 1875 Lambeth St Andrew
Father    Isaac Samuel Hall
Mother Emma Matilda Hall, 69 Ewer St.
Register Type:   Parish Registers

from GRO indexes which gives mmn

Thomas Samuel HALL mmn BARTER 
1875  Dec Quarter in SAINT SAVIOUR SURREY  Volume 01D  Page 25

George Hall
Baptism    12 Jan 1879 Walworth All Saints
Father   Isaace Samuel Hall, general dealer
Mother   Emma Matilda, 44 Gun? St.
Register Type:   Parish Registers

[BAC3]

Thank You Capetown and Diolch Ladyhawk,

I am very grateful for all the details.........a lot of extensive research, which I shall now collate and then see where it takes me, especially as his parents have been identified

For the moment

BAC3

[trish1120]

Possible;
MARIA Dones Christened 20 Feb 1805, St Phillips, Birmingham, Warwickshire
Parents JOHN/SARAH
Siblings;
ELIZABETH 9 May 1801
ELIZA 19 Oct 1803
HANNAH 25 May 1809


Now if they moved around a bit this may be earlier info on them in Staffordshire

Christenings, Tamworth, Stafford
MARY 14 May 1797
JOSEPH 21 Oct 1798
Parents JOHN/SARAH Dones
(no more Children in Staffs for them after these 2)

Marriage;
John DONES to Sarah ARNOLD
6 September 1795, Tamworth, Staffordshire

All on Familysearch.Org

EDIT Maybe not her as a Maria Dones married 1824 in Birmingham to Thomas Marshall