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Carroll/Collins
« on: Sunday 14 May 17 20:13 BST (UK) »
Iam looking for a marraige date for a William Carroll and a Mary Collins pre 1888.As far as I have found out they had a son William in 1888,,,address Paradise Place...Any pointers appreciated...Thank you..

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Re: Carroll/Collins
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 14 May 17 23:57 BST (UK) »
They may have another son Christopher 1890
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01k3q/

Have you got the family in any census?

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Re: Carroll/Collins
« Reply #2 on: Monday 15 May 17 09:36 BST (UK) »
Here is a related thread - a bit of background

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=726670.0
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Re: Carroll/Collins
« Reply #3 on: Monday 15 May 17 15:58 BST (UK) »
Here is a related thread - a bit of background

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=726670.0
Cheers heywood.

So as you know St. Michan's marriages on NLI only go to 1884 and the marriage doesn't seem to be registered so no Civil cert, it looks like you need St.Michan's marriages after 1884 and they don't appear to be on line anywhere.


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Re: Carroll/Collins
« Reply #4 on: Monday 15 May 17 16:22 BST (UK) »
So it looks like a dead end. ..why would the marriage not be registered, I thought all marriages had to be post 1864?

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Re: Carroll/Collins
« Reply #5 on: Monday 15 May 17 18:12 BST (UK) »
So it looks like a dead end. ..why would the marriage not be registered, I thought all marriages had to be post 1864?
All marriages should be but it seems some were missed quite often.

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Re: Carroll/Collins
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 16 May 17 09:17 BST (UK) »
So it looks like a dead end. ..why would the marriage not be registered, I thought all marriages had to be post 1864?

From what I have found some priests, who acted also as registrars hence only one ceremony in Ireland, did not always register all of their civil records. Sometimes that coincides with a change in priest in a parish. I have found several church marriages that are not on the civil register


FTR
In case you had not come across this record
It is not referred to in the other topic
William CARROLL and Mary Anne BENSON had a son Thomas Christopher on Jun 02 1913 LINK #31
He died on Dec 26 1913 aged 6 months LINK #399


Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Carroll/Collins
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 16 May 17 10:58 BST (UK) »
Maybe Rootsireland would be worth a try. I seem to remember that St Michans & St Pauls are a bit 'mixed up' and Rootsireland are the only ones that have St Pauls records - and William Jnr does give his birth as Parish Of St Pauls according to the other thread.