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Help with deciphering Birthplace
« on: Monday 15 May 17 01:46 BST (UK) »
Hi all could anyone plz offer their opinion of the fathers Birthplace
BIXLEY- any
SALT -Staffordshire eng
CRESSWELL -Nelson NZ Cornwall Eng

BROWN-England-Gisborne NZ Whaling connection
Scotland Interests
Fife- Fortune,Mason,Motion,Gray,
Fenwick and Loundoun Parishes-HOWIE/WYLIE/YOUNG/WOODBURN/MITCHEL
USA/British America interests
HOWLAND/VANSICKLE/TILLEY/LOTHROPP/COBB
 Canada ---MOLLARD-
,SIGGLEKOW/SCHWASS-Nelson NZ,

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Re: Help with deciphering Birthplace
« Reply #1 on: Monday 15 May 17 01:56 BST (UK) »
Julez,

Do you have any idea of which country please from later census as that may help narrow things?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Help with deciphering Birthplace
« Reply #2 on: Monday 15 May 17 02:04 BST (UK) »
I may be wrong but it looks like;

---ford
Bedfordshire (which is in England)?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Help with deciphering Birthplace
« Reply #3 on: Monday 15 May 17 02:07 BST (UK) »
I agree it is Bedfordshire - can't work out 1st letter of word above '..adford'.

Annette
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Scotland - Spence, Horne, Cowan, Moffat
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Re: Help with deciphering Birthplace
« Reply #4 on: Monday 15 May 17 02:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie its England Bedfordshire it seems but cant decipher the first place
Julez,

Do you have any idea of which country please from later census as that may help narrow things?

Annie
BIXLEY- any
SALT -Staffordshire eng
CRESSWELL -Nelson NZ Cornwall Eng

BROWN-England-Gisborne NZ Whaling connection
Scotland Interests
Fife- Fortune,Mason,Motion,Gray,
Fenwick and Loundoun Parishes-HOWIE/WYLIE/YOUNG/WOODBURN/MITCHEL
USA/British America interests
HOWLAND/VANSICKLE/TILLEY/LOTHROPP/COBB
 Canada ---MOLLARD-
,SIGGLEKOW/SCHWASS-Nelson NZ,

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Re: Help with deciphering Birthplace
« Reply #5 on: Monday 15 May 17 02:26 BST (UK) »
It looks like Wadferd to me.
Watford comes to mind though that isn't in Bedfordshire ...

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Re: Help with deciphering Birthplace
« Reply #6 on: Monday 15 May 17 02:28 BST (UK) »
I think it's simply Bedford (Town), Bedfordshire?

Can find nothing else close.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Help with deciphering Birthplace
« Reply #7 on: Monday 15 May 17 03:28 BST (UK) »
Familysearch shows a Joseph Thomas Squire was baptised 14/10/1853 St. Paul, Bedford, Bedfordshire son of Thomas and Ann. 

However, can find no likely marriage between a Thomas and Ann, nor can I find any one them on UK census.   Nor is there a birth entry for a Joseph Thomas Squire in 1853.

All very strange - the only Joseph Thomas birth in 1853 Bedford is a Joseph Thomas Taylor who likewise never seems to be seen again and frustratingly the birth is not coming up on the new GRO index.   There were 2 of this name in the June quarter 1853 but the Bedford one is not coming up.
I was wondering whether Joseph Thomas Taylor was the illegitimate son of an Ann Taylor (by a Thomas Squire?) and that somehow he was baptised as if the parents were married.

This has happened in a family line I worked on years ago - a lady from Essex worked for a man in Cambridgeshire who was the father of her child.   She then had the child baptised in Suffolk (where she resided a very short time) as if born from a lawful union between them when this was not the case. 

Annette
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Suffolk - Grist, Knights, Bullenthorpe, Watcham
Scotland - Spence, Horne, Cowan, Moffat
London -  Monk

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Re: Help with deciphering Birthplace
« Reply #8 on: Monday 15 May 17 05:14 BST (UK) »
I was wondering whether Joseph Thomas Taylor was the illegitimate son of an Ann Taylor (by a Thomas Squire?) and that somehow he was baptised as if the parents were married.

This has happened in a family line I worked on years ago - a lady from Essex worked for a man in Cambridgeshire who was the father of her child.   She then had the child baptised in Suffolk (where she resided a very short time) as if born from a lawful union between them when this was not the case. 

Annette

Good sleuthing Annette!

Very coincidental if not the same person  ???

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"