Author Topic: Can anyone please help date this photgraph taken by Winterhalter Leeds  (Read 1171 times)

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I have no idea who this person and there is no guarantee that dating it will help ..... but it might!  ;)

From the clothing and photographer details can anyone offer their opinion?

If anyone fancies a guess at the age of the subject that too might be helpful.

Alistair
Quinlan - Glasgow & Ireland + married Hogbin, Best & King, Australia
Winton - Angus
Joyce - Westport, County Mayo, Ireland
Aitkin/Aitken - Roxburghshire, Selkirkshire, Co. Galway, Australia
Taylor - County Tyrone, Skibereen, Loughrea, Liverpool, Beccles
Higgins, Ryan and Kelly - Athenry
White - Clara, Kings County/County Offally
Law - Ayrshire, Argyllshire
Orr - Ayrshire, County Antrim, Australia
Burnett - Kincardineshire, Angus, Clydebank
Carnegie - Kincardineshire

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Re: Can anyone please help date this photgraph taken by Winterhalter Leeds
« Reply #1 on: Monday 15 May 17 14:30 BST (UK) »
Kelly’s Directory of Leeds 1888 has Hubert Winterhalter at 86 North Street.

The 1881 and 1891 censuses have him as a photographer living in Cobourg Street, which is not far from North Street.
RG11/4525 folio 48 page 7
RG12/3697 folio 63 page 2

This site suggests he was active in Leeds 1881-1897.
https://qvictoria.wordpress.com/w-end/

There's a likely death for him in 1896 (Wharfedale RD), but that's not to say the business didn't carry on after that.

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Re: Can anyone please help date this photgraph taken by Winterhalter Leeds
« Reply #2 on: Monday 15 May 17 15:11 BST (UK) »
Thank you Bookbox!  ;D

Alistair
Quinlan - Glasgow & Ireland + married Hogbin, Best & King, Australia
Winton - Angus
Joyce - Westport, County Mayo, Ireland
Aitkin/Aitken - Roxburghshire, Selkirkshire, Co. Galway, Australia
Taylor - County Tyrone, Skibereen, Loughrea, Liverpool, Beccles
Higgins, Ryan and Kelly - Athenry
White - Clara, Kings County/County Offally
Law - Ayrshire, Argyllshire
Orr - Ayrshire, County Antrim, Australia
Burnett - Kincardineshire, Angus, Clydebank
Carnegie - Kincardineshire

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Re: Can anyone please help date this photgraph taken by Winterhalter Leeds
« Reply #3 on: Monday 15 May 17 15:45 BST (UK) »
The photograph looks somewhat earlier to me - I would guess from the clothing 1860s or early 1870s. The age if the sitter is difficult but I would think 45-55,

Steve
Bumstead - London, Suffolk
Plant, Woolnough, Wase, Suffolk
Flexney, Godfrey, Burson, Hobby -  Oxfordshire
Street, Mitchell - Gloucestershire
Horwood, Heale Drew - Bristol
Gibbs, Gait, Noyes, Peters, Padfield, Board, York, Rogers, Horler, Heale, Emery, Clavey, Mogg, - Somerset
Fook, Snell - Devon
M(a)cDonald, Yuell, Gollan, McKenzie - Rosshire
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Re: Can anyone please help date this photgraph taken by Winterhalter Leeds
« Reply #4 on: Monday 15 May 17 16:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks Steve.  ;D

Alistair
Quinlan - Glasgow & Ireland + married Hogbin, Best & King, Australia
Winton - Angus
Joyce - Westport, County Mayo, Ireland
Aitkin/Aitken - Roxburghshire, Selkirkshire, Co. Galway, Australia
Taylor - County Tyrone, Skibereen, Loughrea, Liverpool, Beccles
Higgins, Ryan and Kelly - Athenry
White - Clara, Kings County/County Offally
Law - Ayrshire, Argyllshire
Orr - Ayrshire, County Antrim, Australia
Burnett - Kincardineshire, Angus, Clydebank
Carnegie - Kincardineshire

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Re: Can anyone please help date this photgraph taken by Winterhalter Leeds
« Reply #5 on: Monday 15 May 17 19:21 BST (UK) »
The cardstock is a late 70's -early 80's design, however the picture is earlier. I would agree this is 1860's.
So a later reprint.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
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Re: Can anyone please help date this photgraph taken by Winterhalter Leeds
« Reply #6 on: Monday 15 May 17 22:05 BST (UK) »
Hi Jim1,
Long time, no see! Great, thank you.  ;D

Alistair
Quinlan - Glasgow & Ireland + married Hogbin, Best & King, Australia
Winton - Angus
Joyce - Westport, County Mayo, Ireland
Aitkin/Aitken - Roxburghshire, Selkirkshire, Co. Galway, Australia
Taylor - County Tyrone, Skibereen, Loughrea, Liverpool, Beccles
Higgins, Ryan and Kelly - Athenry
White - Clara, Kings County/County Offally
Law - Ayrshire, Argyllshire
Orr - Ayrshire, County Antrim, Australia
Burnett - Kincardineshire, Angus, Clydebank
Carnegie - Kincardineshire

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Re: Can anyone please help date this photgraph taken by Winterhalter Leeds
« Reply #7 on: Monday 15 May 17 22:28 BST (UK) »
I saw this one earlier  and thought the clothing didn't fit with the cardstock so I left it for Jim as I guessed that it was most probably a reprint.
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Re: Can anyone please help date this photgraph taken by Winterhalter Leeds
« Reply #8 on: Monday 15 May 17 22:35 BST (UK) »
Well left Carol. Jim's the man for sure! Amazing knowledge.  ;D

Alistair
Quinlan - Glasgow & Ireland + married Hogbin, Best & King, Australia
Winton - Angus
Joyce - Westport, County Mayo, Ireland
Aitkin/Aitken - Roxburghshire, Selkirkshire, Co. Galway, Australia
Taylor - County Tyrone, Skibereen, Loughrea, Liverpool, Beccles
Higgins, Ryan and Kelly - Athenry
White - Clara, Kings County/County Offally
Law - Ayrshire, Argyllshire
Orr - Ayrshire, County Antrim, Australia
Burnett - Kincardineshire, Angus, Clydebank
Carnegie - Kincardineshire