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This couple are believed to be a German Kuss and Veronika Weiser who were both born around 1815. I don't have the originals so can't offer any clues from the cards.

The photographs were probably taken either in Furtwangen or Schonwald in the Black Forest.

Do the quality of the photograph, the apparent ages of the couple, the clothes they are wearing and therefore the possible date they were taken, match up?

And finally, does anyone think there is any possibility that this is the same man as the one I posted yesterday? I'll append that to this post too.

Tall question I know, but way beyond my ken.  :)

Alistair
Quinlan - Glasgow & Ireland + married Hogbin, Best & King, Australia
Winton - Angus
Joyce - Westport, County Mayo, Ireland
Aitkin/Aitken - Roxburghshire, Selkirkshire, Co. Galway, Australia
Taylor - County Tyrone, Skibereen, Loughrea, Liverpool, Beccles
Higgins, Ryan and Kelly - Athenry
White - Clara, Kings County/County Offally
Law - Ayrshire, Argyllshire
Orr - Ayrshire, County Antrim, Australia
Burnett - Kincardineshire, Angus, Clydebank
Carnegie - Kincardineshire

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Re: Can these be dated despite believed to be a German Kuss and Veronika Weiser
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 16 May 17 13:43 BST (UK) »
In my opinion it is two different men  :)

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Re: Can these be dated despite believed to be a German Kuss and Veronika Weiser
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 16 May 17 16:27 BST (UK) »
On my I Phone the Gentleman with the Glasses looks
Cross eyed.
The other Gentleman is not cross eyed so I would say :o
They are not the same Gentleman .

By the two photos that are on this post today.

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Re: Can these be dated despite believed to be a German Kuss and Veronika Weiser
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 16 May 17 17:56 BST (UK) »
The photo of the lady is 1870's & as her chignon is placed at the back of her head I would suggest mid-late decade.
The man could be 1860's or 70's by his dress style but as the photo is quite good I would also suggest 1870's.
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Re: Can these be dated despite believed to be a German Kuss and Veronika Weiser
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 16 May 17 22:55 BST (UK) »
I would say they are not the same person.
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Re: Can these be dated despite believed to be a German Kuss and Veronika Weiser
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 16 May 17 23:15 BST (UK) »
Agree - not the same man.  Hair parted on opposite side of head . . .  not definitive but still . . . .

The lady looks a bit young to have been born in 1815.  Jim's dating of the photo would make her  65 at least.    :-\ :-\

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Re: Can these be dated despite believed to be a German Kuss and Veronika Weiser
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 17 May 17 00:06 BST (UK) »
I agree with Wiggy...more likely to be the next generation.
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Re: Can these be dated despite believed to be a German Kuss and Veronika Weiser
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 17 May 17 09:36 BST (UK) »
a-l, Scribble1952, jim, Carol & Wiggy,   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Thank you all - brilliant comments. Would any of you care to guess at the ages of the subjects?

Alistair
Quinlan - Glasgow & Ireland + married Hogbin, Best & King, Australia
Winton - Angus
Joyce - Westport, County Mayo, Ireland
Aitkin/Aitken - Roxburghshire, Selkirkshire, Co. Galway, Australia
Taylor - County Tyrone, Skibereen, Loughrea, Liverpool, Beccles
Higgins, Ryan and Kelly - Athenry
White - Clara, Kings County/County Offally
Law - Ayrshire, Argyllshire
Orr - Ayrshire, County Antrim, Australia
Burnett - Kincardineshire, Angus, Clydebank
Carnegie - Kincardineshire

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Re: Can these be dated despite believed to be a German Kuss and Veronika Weiser
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 17 May 17 09:59 BST (UK) »
I will have a guess at them being in their fifties, but seeing as people looked older than their years in the past, I could be wrong. :-\