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Re: Mensforth and Laurence (Lawrence)
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 17 May 17 01:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks Cando...  age makes it back to 1875 for her birth so looking good there...

Her death looks like 1947....

And I have found an Albert Henry Lawrence 1860 born to William & Eliza Gifford as well as a daughter  Eleanor Gifford Lawrence born 1855 Brompton....  I think there is going to be a few more children there......

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Re: Mensforth and Laurence (Lawrence)
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 17 May 17 01:09 BST (UK) »
Possibly Ellen's parents' marriage

Marriages Jun 1867 
BAILEY    Esther     W Bromwich    6b/828    
MENSFORTH    Edward     W Bromwich 6b/828

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Re: Mensforth and Laurence (Lawrence)
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 17 May 17 01:11 BST (UK) »

I have the date of that  as 21 April 1867 West Bromich... so thanks for the reference!


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Re: Mensforth and Laurence (Lawrence)
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 17 May 17 01:13 BST (UK) »
Silver Wedding for the Mensforth Lawrence marriage
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article87552605

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adding:
LAWRENCE— MENSFORTH.— On the 25th October, 1893, at St. Luke's Church, by the Rev.
Archdeacon Farr, Albert F., third son of the late
William Charles and Eliza Lawrence, to Ellen,
second daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Edward Mens-
forth, Adelaide. Present address— Brooklyn Park.
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Re: Mensforth and Laurence (Lawrence)
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 17 May 17 01:19 BST (UK) »


thanks Ros

Great help!


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Re: Mensforth and Laurence (Lawrence)
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 17 May 17 01:21 BST (UK) »
Marriage of Albert's parents.  Parents' names were not recorded in SA in 1854.

LAWRENCE William  24 years  Status Single  Father Unrecorded
GIFFORD Eliza  24 years  Status Single  Father Unrecorded
27 Nov 1854
At Trinity Church [Adelaide]  Ade 21/208

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Re: Mensforth and Laurence (Lawrence)
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 17 May 17 02:22 BST (UK) »
SAGenealogy's bdm's indexes have limited information.  One has to pay to find more unless you are a member.
http://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-databases.html

From my resource
LAURENCE Albert Francis Cavalry  22 years  Status Single  Father William Charles LAURENCE
MENSFORTH Ellen  18 years  Status Single  Father Edward MENSFORTH
25 Oct 1893
At St Luke Church [Adelaide]   Ade Symbol V  177/350

Symbol V
A variation exists in the spelling or interpretation of the names:
·   A slight difference in the spelling of the given or surname between
·   The Registrar's and the Bride and Groom's version. The bride and
·   Grooms spelling is preferred where it is clearly written.
·   The Regisrtar has recorded two versions.
·   Due to poor handwriting different interpretations of names are possible.

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Births Jun 1875   
MENSFORTH Ellen  W Bromwich    6b/842

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I found her birth on the GRO  recorded as MANSFORTH..... Mother's maiden name Bailey...

MANSFORTH, Ellen         Mothers maiden name: BAILEY     
Gro Reference   1875  June Quarter in West Bromich   Volume 06B  Page 842

so thanks for the reference numbers which helped with her birth......

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Re: Mensforth and Laurence (Lawrence)
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 17 May 17 02:51 BST (UK) »
Interesting that the transcription of Ellen's birth from http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl has the correct spelling for her surname.  More accurate than GRO indexes :)

I gave you the parents' marriage as we knew her mother was Esther.  Esther was named as Edward's wife on the BISA information and as mother on SA birth indexes for Ellen's siblings as Esther BAILEY.

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Re: Mensforth and Laurence (Lawrence)
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 17 May 17 02:53 BST (UK) »
Thanks Cando
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