George Newns also known as George Rogers Newns

[avm228]

GRO Index Birth Reg;
NEWINS, -   (no christian name, no Mothers maiden name)
GRO Reference: 1841  S Quarter in WREXHAM  Volume 27  Page 262

Looks promising - this one is indexed as Male NEWNES on FreeBMD.

Unfortunately (re looking for Martha) there seems to have been a problem with the Wrexham 1841 census - it was all lost, then the town returns were found and privately transcribed, but they don't seem to be available on the usual online sites. (One local history website tantalisingly suggests that the surname Newnes does feature in it!).

[trish1120]

Interesting that explains a lot

Off to bed!

[wilcoxon]

1841 Census Wrexham Town:
 King Street:    Anne     30     fem. servt.   not born in County
Queen Street: Martha  20     fem. servt.   not born in County

These are in separate households. Liz has already spotted Martha on another thread.

[wilcoxon]

1841 Census Wrexham Town:
 King Street:    Anne     30     fem. servt.   not born in County
Queen Street: Martha  20     fem. servt.   not born in County

These are in separate households. Liz has already spotted Martha on another thread.

Should have said - Newns.
http://www.clwydsurnames.org.uk/index.html

[avm228]

Oh.  Thanks Wilcoxon.  Are we duplicating work done on another thread?

[wilcoxon]

No, it`s just that Liz picked up on this, her posts are on 14/15 at the end of the thread.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=510907.45

 See « Reply #49 on: Tuesday 08 February 11 16:09 GMT (UK)

[wilcoxon]

Mar qtr 1842
North Wales BMD shows a Civil marriage.

ROGERS Thomas . Wrexham, Civil Marriage
NEWNS Martha

[Liz newns]

Oooo, so helpful, thank you all.
No I don't have a birth certificate for George, but I have in his own writing aged 18 8/9/1859, which makes his d.o.b 1841,from a family bible, it's his mother that is the mystery. Your replies have given me some research to do.
In researching For Martha we have, " male born 9 Sept 1841 to Martha Newns.", but no father is named.
On George's marriage cert his father is named as Richard, cordwainer, but haven't been able to link any Richards.
Thank you all again xx

[wilcoxon]

1851 Windle  St Helens .Lancashire
Thomas Rodgers  32 shoemaker b Wrexham
Ellen Rodgers  24  b Liverpool
George Rodgers  9 b Wrexham
Samuel Rodgers  7  b Overton
John Rodgers  brother  45 shoemaker b Wrexham

Both Thomas and his brother John are shoemakers.
A cordwainer was also a shoemaker,  as Thomas`s father was.