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Re: Whittaker Fred and Schofield James
« Reply #9 on: Friday 19 May 17 09:00 BST (UK) »
James Schofield was b in 1888 in Hollinwood to James and Elizabeth Hadder he served in India 1905-1906 battle of Mons.  James m Emma Wilcock. dau of Richard Wilcock. he died 6 days after discharge on 6.7.1918 aged 31

Julienne

Hi Julienne,
I have a query re your information about James. In all the census, marriage and birth information, i can't see Hollinwood being a factor. In his baptism record and following records, he is at the other side of town.
This might affect searches for his service record if Hollinwood is used as his birthplace.
You might have his birth certificate and he may well have been born there of course but I just wanted to confirm the information.

Thanks
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Re: Whittaker Fred and Schofield James
« Reply #10 on: Friday 19 May 17 09:43 BST (UK) »
Knowing his (Schofield's) numbers makes all the difference!  As you have Ancestry, here's the link to his pension record which confirms his service from 1903 to 1918.  Parents as you posted.
 Discharged 29 Aug 1918.  His medal card is also easily found.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1114/MIUK1914A_086721-00987?pid=620830&backurl=http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26db%3DBritishArmy%26h%3D620830%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DVeQ498%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26rhSource%3D1262&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=VeQ498&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true

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PS Not the one I queried earlier.
I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



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Re: Whittaker Fred and Schofield James
« Reply #11 on: Friday 19 May 17 10:20 BST (UK) »
That's great maxD.
It was just the Hollinwood reference which seemed odd.
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Re: Whittaker Fred and Schofield James
« Reply #12 on: Friday 19 May 17 14:00 BST (UK) »
In my case, I earlier queried the James H Schofield because although his papers mentioned Hollinwood, the service history didn't add up.  The one with the service numbers quoted doesn't mention Hollinwood at all!

Julienne - As to the Whittaker man.  Sorry but I can't find a service record (Fred or Alfred) that can be attributed to the man you describe.

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I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



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Re: Whittaker Fred and Schofield James
« Reply #13 on: Friday 19 May 17 18:10 BST (UK) »
In my case, I earlier queried the James H Schofield because although his papers mentioned Hollinwood, the service history didn't add up.  The one with the service numbers quoted doesn't mention Hollinwood at all!
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I was wondering about Hollinwood as all other records have no mention of it either - it is the other side of town and I don't want you to have the wrong birth details, Julienne.
(Unless of course he was born there and then moved  :))
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Re: Whittaker Fred and Schofield James
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 21 May 17 08:35 BST (UK) »
Fred Whittaker's father was Joe Greenhalgh Whittaker

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Re: Whittaker Fred and Schofield James
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 21 May 17 08:58 BST (UK) »
Here is the other thread with the latest information

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=771821.
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Re: Whittaker Fred and Schofield James
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 21 May 17 10:55 BST (UK) »
Regrettably it still doesn't turn up a service record identifiable to this Fred Whittaker!

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Presumably the original poster is content with Schofield's record?
I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



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Randle/Millington Warwicks
Sokser/Klingler Austria/Croatia

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Re: Whittaker Fred and Schofield James
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 21 May 17 13:47 BST (UK) »
On
http://armyservicenumbers.blogspot.co.uk/2009/02/manchester-regiment-service-battalion.html

it says that numbers
8000-9400s
Issued between August 1914 and February 1915 to men joining the 17th Manchester (2nd City) Battalion.