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Offline alistquin

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WWI and WWII internees
« on: Thursday 18 May 17 18:36 BST (UK) »
Can anyone tell me if there are any online records of German internees on the IoM during both world wars.

Alistair
Quinlan - Glasgow & Ireland + married Hogbin, Best & King, Australia
Winton - Angus
Joyce - Westport, County Mayo, Ireland
Aitkin/Aitken - Roxburghshire, Selkirkshire, Co. Galway, Australia
Taylor - County Tyrone, Skibereen, Loughrea, Liverpool, Beccles
Higgins, Ryan and Kelly - Athenry
White - Clara, Kings County/County Offally
Law - Ayrshire, Argyllshire
Orr - Ayrshire, County Antrim, Australia
Burnett - Kincardineshire, Angus, Clydebank
Carnegie - Kincardineshire

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Re: WWI and WWII internees
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 18 May 17 19:33 BST (UK) »
Sorry, I've no experience of researching internees, but have found a couple of explanatory websites, both of which state only a few records exist. The first being the national archives and the other being a Jewish one

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/internees/

http://www.ajr.org.uk/index.cfm/section.journal/issue.Mar08/article=1031

and here's the FHS Isle of Man site's description:

http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/famhist/genealgy/intern.htm


Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy
MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell
Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar
Ross, Urray:Mackenzie
Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell
Perthshire: Brown Ferguson
Wales: McCarthy, Thomas
England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells
Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke

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Re: WWI and WWII internees
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 18 May 17 20:24 BST (UK) »
Thanks Rena.  ;D

Alistair
Quinlan - Glasgow & Ireland + married Hogbin, Best & King, Australia
Winton - Angus
Joyce - Westport, County Mayo, Ireland
Aitkin/Aitken - Roxburghshire, Selkirkshire, Co. Galway, Australia
Taylor - County Tyrone, Skibereen, Loughrea, Liverpool, Beccles
Higgins, Ryan and Kelly - Athenry
White - Clara, Kings County/County Offally
Law - Ayrshire, Argyllshire
Orr - Ayrshire, County Antrim, Australia
Burnett - Kincardineshire, Angus, Clydebank
Carnegie - Kincardineshire

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Re: WWI and WWII internees
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 18 May 17 21:43 BST (UK) »
The International Red Cross have a list of both military and civilian internees/prisoners of war.  Here is the link to start the simple surname search, which will take you to a further page where you need to choose nationality, etc.  Unfortunately, I don't know whether there's a simple name list or any additional information about the individuals.

 https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/

Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy
MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell
Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar
Ross, Urray:Mackenzie
Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell
Perthshire: Brown Ferguson
Wales: McCarthy, Thomas
England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells
Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke

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Re: WWI and WWII internees
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 18 May 17 22:56 BST (UK) »
Hello Alistair,

You probably already know this but there are many photographs of internees - a few named - on the MNH iMuseum site.

http://imuseum.im/search/all/search/?tab=all&view=&term=internee&sort=&size=20&images=

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Re: WWI and WWII internees
« Reply #5 on: Friday 19 May 17 09:20 BST (UK) »
Thank you Paul and Rena. Very helpful information.   ;D ;D

Alistair
Quinlan - Glasgow & Ireland + married Hogbin, Best & King, Australia
Winton - Angus
Joyce - Westport, County Mayo, Ireland
Aitkin/Aitken - Roxburghshire, Selkirkshire, Co. Galway, Australia
Taylor - County Tyrone, Skibereen, Loughrea, Liverpool, Beccles
Higgins, Ryan and Kelly - Athenry
White - Clara, Kings County/County Offally
Law - Ayrshire, Argyllshire
Orr - Ayrshire, County Antrim, Australia
Burnett - Kincardineshire, Angus, Clydebank
Carnegie - Kincardineshire

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Re: WWI and WWII internees
« Reply #6 on: Friday 19 May 17 09:38 BST (UK) »
Apparently there are no official records kept on the Isle of Man.
Those records will be at places such as TNA.
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: WWI and WWII internees
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 21 May 17 19:40 BST (UK) »
there are various Manx records but these are based on auxiliary sources rather than the official records now mostly lost or destroyed -
eg there are local police records for most female WW2 internees -
 the Manx Museum has over the last few years been building up a list of names taken from such records.

The museum also has an extensive collection of photos of WW1 internees at Douglas and Knockaloe camps -
some of these are now online as part of www.imuseum.im

The museum also has a collection of diaries and other material relating to the Manx camps

Like many other record offices any requests should be as specific as possible stating what you already know and what information you are seeking
any thing with a Manx Connection

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Re: WWI and WWII internees
« Reply #8 on: Monday 22 May 17 09:56 BST (UK) »
Frances_mnb and KGarrad,

Thank you both for your help.  ;D ;D

Alistair
Quinlan - Glasgow & Ireland + married Hogbin, Best & King, Australia
Winton - Angus
Joyce - Westport, County Mayo, Ireland
Aitkin/Aitken - Roxburghshire, Selkirkshire, Co. Galway, Australia
Taylor - County Tyrone, Skibereen, Loughrea, Liverpool, Beccles
Higgins, Ryan and Kelly - Athenry
White - Clara, Kings County/County Offally
Law - Ayrshire, Argyllshire
Orr - Ayrshire, County Antrim, Australia
Burnett - Kincardineshire, Angus, Clydebank
Carnegie - Kincardineshire