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Catherine Ferns Ryan 1907 - ?
« on: Thursday 18 May 17 20:22 BST (UK) »
hi, am looking to trace Catherine Ferns Ryan who emigrated from Scotland to the USA 1930. After being met by her sister Molly Ryan in Brooklyn, New York, I have no information on her and am stuck to find out anything else. Does any one have any ideas how I can look forward on her? Thx Kathy

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Re: Catherine Ferns Ryan 1907 - ?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 19 May 17 09:44 BST (UK) »
What were the parents names ?  Have you got an exact date of birth for Catherine (this might be a big help? Any other relatives in the USA apart from sister Molly ?  When was sister Molly born ? When did Molly immigrate ?

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Scotlands People birth cert would give you the exact date of birth

Catherine Ferns Ryan - F - 1907 - 625/1 17 - Bothwell

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Re: Catherine Ferns Ryan 1907 - ?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 19 May 17 09:49 BST (UK) »
Was your Catherine Ryan, the one born 1907 Uddingston Scotland - travelling on the Cameronia arriving 5 February 1930 ? Mother Mary Ryan - 36 C Block - Fallin.   Going to sister Miss Mary Ryan 432 Clinton Avenue. Brooklyn. NY.

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Re: Catherine Ferns Ryan 1907 - ?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 19 May 17 09:51 BST (UK) »
There is a possible petition for naturalization files New York Southern District - 19 November 1941 - Catherine Ryan/Clifford born 1907 and aged 34 years. 1035 Park Ave. NYC.  Petition 369513
There were a few Catherine Ryan so doesn't necessarily mean this is yours.

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Re: Catherine Ferns Ryan 1907 - ?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 19 May 17 10:10 BST (UK) »
Is this Molly ?  There was a New York passenger List for Mary Ryan born Uddington 1903 - aged 23 years -  - arrived 18 October 1925 on the Transylvania. Mother Mary Ryan -  36 C Fallin Scotland. Also travelling a sister Anastasia Ryan aged 20 years - same  mother. Final destination Brooklyn.

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Added There is a marriage in Brooklyn - Anastasia Ryan to Richard G McMaster - Mt Olivet Presbyterian Church - 8 October 1927 -

Alo passenger list to New York - 24 November 1931 and a return UK 13 April 1932.

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Re: Catherine Ferns Ryan 1907 - ?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 19 May 17 10:16 BST (UK) »
Another passenger list - arriving 29 September 1929 on the Cameronia  - Mary Ryan aged 26 years born 1903 Uddingston. Described as a governess. Mother Mrs Mary Ryan Fallin Scotland. Friend Mrs Mary Carpenter. 432 Clinton Avenue. Brooklyn. Had lived in USA 1925 - 1929

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Re: Catherine Ferns Ryan 1907 - ?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 19 May 17 10:38 BST (UK) »
Looking at the sister Mary Ryan - threw up a naturalization document for a John Mulligan born 1 July 1900 who married a Mary Ryan 29 October 1933. John Joseph Mulligan passed away in Hillsborough Florida March 1983 - burial Greenwood Cemetery Eustis Lake County Florida.
Plot: West side

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=mulligan&GSiman=1&GScid=72057&GRid=108669681&

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Added - already covered - previous thread - have you located obituaries for John Mulligan and Mary nee Ryan Mulligan ?

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Re: Catherine Ferns Ryan 1907 - ?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 20 May 17 17:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Sandra, thank you for all your work on Catherine Ferns Ryan. Born Uddingston, 1907 emigrated to the US via Canada (maybe that was a stopover from Glasgow as she would have certainly gone to her sister Mary Ryan later Mulligan). It could be she married Clifford, but I cannot trace her further in the US, apart from a random entry in a Californian gazette. The Ferns part of her sme is pretty special. I picked up from a person on Ancesrty that she MAY have had a daughter Doris. The lady whose tree it was, had a private tree and she hasnt replied to my question about Catherine herself. Thank you for helping me! Regards Kathy

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Re: Catherine Ferns Ryan 1907 - ?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 20 May 17 18:54 BST (UK) »
You have thrown up a whole lot more information on this family than I could find. How did you find the marriages? What register would I use? I have very little idea how to go about searching records in the USA, other than Ancestry and that is a hit and miss with screeds of random hits.
How do you find Social Security Numbers? That seems to be a key in finding people. Is there an accessible records system we can get into?
Thx again Sandra for your help. Kathy