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James SURR, born c1845, Manchester
« on: Friday 19 May 17 17:16 BST (UK) »
Hello,

James SURR appears with his family on the 1851 England Census at HO107/2230/619, p.11.  Other than the fact he was imprisoned for 18 months between 11/10/1858 and 10/04/1860 I can find no further Census/BDM/Criminal records for him.

Can anyone help please ???

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Re: James SURR, born c1845, Manchester
« Reply #1 on: Friday 19 May 17 18:00 BST (UK) »
Birth reg as James Surr, Jun qtr 1844 Manchester, mmn Lyddel?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: James SURR, born c1845, Manchester
« Reply #2 on: Friday 19 May 17 20:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks avm228,

It is the correct person as several Family Trees quote Elizabeth LIDDALL as his older sister's, Sarah Ann, mother.    The trees make no mention of James, incidentally??

I had written to the "Tree Owners" before but no response yet.

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Re: James SURR, born c1845, Manchester
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 20 May 17 02:30 BST (UK) »
On the 1858 criminal record, which gives his address as Mason Street, Manchester, it shows he also used the alias James LANCASTER.  His mother Eliza was said to be living at 7 Spear Street.

Perhaps he adopted another alias after he left prison?
GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham. MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. JACKSON: East Yorks, North Yorks, Durham. TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: James SURR, born c1845, Manchester
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 20 May 17 10:18 BST (UK) »
Thank you Jomot,

I reviewed the possibilities of the alias "LANCASTER" that you uncovered but, sadly, nothing fresh has emerged...........No "SURRprise" 8)

For the moment,

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