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1800 census Robinson
« on: Friday 19 May 17 22:15 BST (UK) »
I have been researching the paternal side of my family tree for a very long time and have made it back to my 4th great grandfather born in 1788 in what is now KY but was VA then. I can find where he is born/married/buried, his wife's info, and both of them on a census in 1860.

I cannot find either of his parents, I cannot locate him on a census previous to 1860 (he was 72 at the time). He was born in the states, shortly before the census started but no luck.

I feel like I am at a dead end with both of them. Any ideas?  I've used WikiTree, Ancestry, Rootsweb, etc but just can't get past this.  They came from somewhere!

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Re: Can't go any further?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 20 May 17 01:29 BST (UK) »
Hi LeahRaye

Welcome to RootsChat  :)

There are some experienced researchers on here that may be able to help you. If you gave us some names it would be a great help  :)

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1800 census Robinson
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 20 May 17 01:42 BST (UK) »
Thomas Lee Robinson was born in 1788 in VA (later became a part of KY). He married Sarah Sally King  (maybe 2nd marriage because he has two  children born before the marriage date. They had a James Robinson in 1842. All three buried in LOUDON county TN.

I have only been able to find him on the 1860 census so far. 

I'm hoping to find Thomas on a census as a child to determine his parents. I am at a dead end to find his parents, unsure if they were immigrants.

I have tons of information saved if any other tidbits would help.  I appreciate any help I can get!

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Re: 1800 census Robinson
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 20 May 17 02:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Leah Raye,

Welcome to Rootschat  ;D

When did Thomas Lee marry Sally?
Could you please list the full details of the 1860 Census that you do have?
Had their son James in 1842? That's when he was born?

Could you also list all Thomas' known children?

This is the couple, buried in Loudon:
Steekee Cemetery, Loudon, Loudon Co., Tennessee
Thomas Lee ROBINSON
Born 11 May 1788, died 22 Jul 1864
Find A Grave Memorial# 28907696

Sally ROBINSON
Born 21 Dec 1788, died 7 May 1865
Find A Grave Memorial# 28907689

Do you know if the dates are a transcript of the actual Headstone?

As I'm sure you know, the earlier federal US Census, don't list all person in the households - just the Head, then then numbers of others, broken down by age, gender and so on.

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Re: 1800 census Robinson
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 20 May 17 13:30 BST (UK) »
From an online tree here is a 1850 census:

1850 United States Federal Census

Name:   Thomas Roberson [Thomas Robinson]
Age:   63
Birth Year:   abt 1787
Birthplace:   Virginia
Home in 1850:   Subdivision 20, Roane, Tennessee, USA
Gender:   Male
Family Number:   493
Household Members:   
Name   Age
Thomas Roberson   63
Sarah Roberson   64
Elizabeth Roberson   30
John Roberson   21
Polly Roberson   24
Minerva Roberson   23
Robert Roberson   20
William Roberson   22

Source: Year: 1850; Census Place: Subdivision 20, Roane, Tennessee; Roll: M432_893; Page: 355A; Image: 172

This tree has parents John Robinson Snr (1738 - 1798) and Lucy Smith (1734-1825).  I see no support for parentage and with the age calculation show that Lucy Smith would have been 54 years of age when Thomas Lee was born it does seem unlikely.
Denham [Hertford & London], Carter [Somerset], Francis, Badger [Pembroke, Glamorgan]

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Re: 1800 census Robinson
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 20 May 17 13:35 BST (UK) »
Here is a possible 1840 census:

1840 United States Federal Census

Name:   Thomas Robertson [Thomas Robinson]
Home in 1840 (City, County, State):   Roane, Tennessee
Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9:   1
Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 14:   1
Free White Persons - Males - 15 thru 19:   1
Free White Persons - Males - 20 thru 29:   1
Free White Persons - Males - 50 thru 59:   1
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 14:   1
Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19:   2
Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29:   1
Persons Employed in Agriculture:   3
Free White Persons - Under 20:   6
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49:   2
Total Free White Persons:   9
Total All Persons - Free White, Free Colored, Slaves:   9

Source Citation
Year: 1840; Census Place: Roane, Tennessee; Roll: 535; Page: 95;


There is also a Thomas Robinson on the 1830 census in Roane.  The transcript shows Thomas R Robinson but the original is just Thomas Robinson:

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Name:   Thomas R Robinson
[Thomas Robinson]
Home in 1830 (City, County, State):   Roane, Tennessee
Free White Persons - Males - Under 5:   1
Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 14:   1
Free White Persons - Males - 40 thru 49:   1
Free White Persons - Females - Under 5:   2
Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9:   2
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 14:   2
Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19:   1
Free White Persons - Females - 40 thru 49:   1
Slaves - Males - 10 thru 23:   1
Free White Persons - Under 20:   9
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49:   2
Total Free White Persons:   11
Total Slaves:   1
Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored):   12

Source Citation
1830; Census Place: Roane, Tennessee; Series: M19; Roll: 180; Page: 27

1820 census

There are only 3 Robinson (or similar) entries for the 1820 census.  One is unlikely because there are no children.  If there was information on children born it might be possible to identify if one of the other two was Thomas Lee:


   Name         Home in 1820 (City, County, State)   Total Number of All Persons -                         

Thomas Prolinson      White, Tennessee                                       4   

Thomas Robinson      Hardin, Tennessee                               2   

Thomas Robinson      White, Tennessee                                       5
Denham [Hertford & London], Carter [Somerset], Francis, Badger [Pembroke, Glamorgan]

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Re: 1800 census Robinson
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 20 May 17 15:24 BST (UK) »
The History of Roane County, Tennesee 1801-1870

On the page relating to the Thomas Lee Robinson family it states that Sarah King's father was a Major Robert King USA Officer.   It also states that Thomas had 2 brothers, John W and James Robinson.

It also shows the issue of Thomas & Sarah:

Denham [Hertford & London], Carter [Somerset], Francis, Badger [Pembroke, Glamorgan]

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Re: 1800 census Robinson
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 21 May 17 01:23 BST (UK) »
Wow, that's a lot of good info.  I am unsure where to go from here as I don't know if any of those are right.

I don't even know how to type this all out, so please have patience. :)

I can prove back to great grandfather with obits and sibling lists.

James R Robinson (6/7/1842 - 11/6/1904) Married Roxina Lillie/Lilly (1844-1907) in Caldwell Co, KY on 4/23/1867.  I have obits that state her name was spelled LILLY but her headstone actually says LILLIE.

Their children were:
Luther Riley Robinson (7/5/1874-5/31/1947)
William "Yankee" Melvin Robinson (1882 - 9/9/1942)*My grandfathers father
Millard Fillmore Robinson (1883-1955) *located on 1920 census in Stewart TN, aged 37

The parent of James R (b 1842) was James (b 1824 in that history page) with siblings named Susan (1819-1886) and John Wesley (1828-1906).  Somehow I have his birth year as 1817 but the jpeg list does show two matching siblings but James born in 1824, making him 18 when James R was born. Nancy, Minerva, and Mary would account for the gap between Susan and John Wesley on my list.

But that history shows James R Born 1842 only had one child?  Robert King?  Am I reading it right?
And did those daughters, Nancy, Minerva, and Mary, MARRY other Robinsons???

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Re: 1800 census Robinson
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 21 May 17 09:41 BST (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat

Minerva Robinson marrried to William Robinson and passed away 28 May 1908 Philadelphia, Loudon, Tennessee.

Marriage - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XDMB-V6Y

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Burial Steekee Cemetery  Loudon Loudon County Tennessee.
Plot: Section A Row 4 Grave 17

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=28907688

husband William - 1828 - 1903

Burial Steekee Cemetery  Loudon Loudon County Tennessee.
Plot: Section A Row 4 Grave 18

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=28907698

http://www.tngenweb.org/loudon/cemetery/listings/steekee1.html

Names of children are listed on this memorial -

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