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Lea siblings baptised as teenagers (toxteth park connections )
« on: Saturday 20 May 17 15:46 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help me unravel why Joseph lea aged 19 and Mary Rice Lea were baptized in Toxteth park in 1885 address given as  21 Hodges Mount

Father Thomas LEA ( b 1822 )was a printer manager

Other evidence of this family is mostly in Cheshire .according to 1861 census father Thomas was born in Liverpool
Mother Elizabeth b1827  .and children
James Henry Lea b 1854
 Thomas Mason lea b1850
Margaret Jane lea b1854
frank Lea b1860
were born in Bebington Cheshire

Although John Frederick was b .1857 in Liverpool

  Birkenhead 1871 census has  Elizabeth Ellen b1861 .Joseph b1865 and  Mary Rice Lea b 1869
All born in Birkenhead

In 1881. Married sister Margaret Jane Westthrope was living at Toxteth park

But I can't see any other links ...
Also help finding deaths of any of the Lea family would be greatly appreciated .
James Henry Lea  died in 1899
And Margaret Jane Westthrope must have died between 1891 census and
1900 when younger sister Elizabeth Ellen marrying her widowed husband

Their wedding banns do not show her father Thomas Lea as deceased but I haven't found him or Elizabeth in 1881 1891 or 1900

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Re: Lea siblings babtised as teenagers (toxteth park connections )
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 20 May 17 15:54 BST (UK) »
There is a census with a ,Mary R lea aged 11 as step daughter
The head of household is a printer but I can't read his name
Wife seems to be Maria     

This could be same family

I can't read the names to make a match
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Re: Lea siblings babtised as teenagers (toxteth park connections )
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 20 May 17 16:11 BST (UK) »
Awful writing

1881 3636 /12/17

Tho. Lea   61 yrs
Mary Lea   50 yrs
Wm. H. Lea 21 yrs
Frank Lea   21 yrs
Jos. Lea   15 yrs
Mary R. Lea 11 yrs stepdaughter

There is a marriage in 1881 for Thomas Lea and Maria Westhorpe
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Re: Lea siblings babtised as teenagers (toxteth park connections )
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 20 May 17 16:32 BST (UK) »
That's very interesting if not a  little incestuous  ?

Marie Westthrope is the mother of Sam Burton Westthrope who married Margaret Jane lea in 1877
And Elizabeth Ellen in 1877
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Re: Lea siblings babtised as teenagers (toxteth park connections )
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 20 May 17 16:33 BST (UK) »
Here is Mary Westhorp in 1871 3752/78/4 in Birkenhead

Mary Westhorp 39 yrs
Samuel B 15 yrs
William H  10 yrs

Mary is a widow - no real relationship though is it - her son married - then she married the father. Is that it?
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Re: Lea siblings babtised as teenagers (toxteth park connections )
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 20 May 17 16:36 BST (UK) »
I.ve been trying to make the names fit
Frank Joe and Mary R correspond in ages

But where does Wm H  come I
Could it be JmH for James Henry ? He was born 1854 tho
Daniel Lea  is nearer in age b1859

John Frederick b1857  can be ruled out as he was a married baker by then
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Re: Lea siblings babtised as teenagers (toxteth park connections )
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 20 May 17 16:43 BST (UK) »
Maria Lea aged 59 is living with her son William Hast Westthrop in 1891

Both are widowed

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Re: Lea siblings babtised as teenagers (toxteth park connections )
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 20 May 17 16:51 BST (UK) »
Why is Mary R listed as Step daughter but William H is son in 1881 - perhaps just an error.
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Re: Lea siblings baptised as teenagers (toxteth park connections )
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 20 May 17 16:59 BST (UK) »
I wondered that ...
So Wm H is Maria.s son surname  Westthrope
And  Mary R lea is her stepdaughter .!

Age 21 Mary is living with Samuel B and Margaret Jane Westthrope in Wales she is listed as wife.s sister

I did wonder if she was actually the child of one of the elder siblings ...I wonder where that middle name Rice  came from
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