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William Holmes
« on: Monday 22 May 17 10:48 BST (UK) »
A friend has asked me for help in finding information on her maternal grandfather William Holmes. This is the information she has given me but I can't get any further. can anyone help?
"I am stuck with my Maternal Grandfather William Holmes and his family. Rumour has it that he was illegitimate, and his father might possibly have been American. He died in Mallow, Cork in 1961 and he was circa 67. He married my grandmother Ellen Holmes in 1921 and my mother Ellen followed shortly after. My mum does not remember him having any immediate family. there is a connection somewhere with the Holmes in Fair st Mallow, but the William on that census is not him. I am not sure that the grand parents I have in for him are 100% either. My uncle told me before he died that the family on that side came from Bweeng, not too far from Mallow. I did ask Mallow heritage centre a few years ago to help , but they came up with nothing. I cannot find him on either census.
Kennedy, Bell, Crumley, Job, Reilly, Convery & Crowley

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Re: William Holmes
« Reply #1 on: Monday 22 May 17 10:54 BST (UK) »
If this is the marriage to Ellen Singleton he states on the marriage cert that he is illegitimate
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1921/09237/5343207.pdf

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Re: William Holmes
« Reply #2 on: Monday 22 May 17 11:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks Dathai. At least that confirms his illigitimacy. Any suggestions on how I can find more of his family?
Kennedy, Bell, Crumley, Job, Reilly, Convery & Crowley

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Re: William Holmes
« Reply #3 on: Monday 22 May 17 11:17 BST (UK) »
i just noticed that Fr Murphy had written his name as William Cashman then crossed it out for Holmes possibly his mothers name (Cashman)

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Re: William Holmes
« Reply #4 on: Monday 22 May 17 12:40 BST (UK) »
9th April 1894 William of Ellen Holmes(illegitimate) born Kilpadder
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1894/02256/1848507.pdf

same place your William got married

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Re: William Holmes
« Reply #5 on: Monday 22 May 17 13:16 BST (UK) »
I think that this maybe William as WH in the workhouse in Mallow in 1901 LINK
Residents of a house 6.18 in Kilknockin (Mallow Rural, Cork)

Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: William Holmes
« Reply #6 on: Monday 22 May 17 13:31 BST (UK) »
I wonder is this Ellen's marriage in 1904 LINK
The church record shows her from Glantane


also there is a marriage of a Margaret HOLMES in 1899 LINK

Link to 1901 Census

Death of Daniel HOLMES LINK

the informant on the baptism of William HOMES in Glantane on Apr 01 1894 is a Margaret HOLMES from a transcription - original not on line
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: William Holmes
« Reply #8 on: Monday 22 May 17 15:02 BST (UK) »