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Re: William Holmes
« Reply #9 on: Monday 22 May 17 15:31 BST (UK) »
Ellen was born in Glashabee 1869    Googling Glashabee gives Glashabee,Bweeng,Cork
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03367/2234550.pdf

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Re: William Holmes
« Reply #10 on: Monday 22 May 17 17:06 BST (UK) »
Quote from: myluck! on Monday 22 May 17 13:31 BST (UK)
I wonder is this Ellen's marriage in 1904 LINK
The church record shows her from Glantane

This is the family in 1901 LINK

They had at least four children LINK
shown on census
c1903 Kate
Dec 05 1904 Edmond
May 01 1907 Mary
and
Sept 18 1911 William

The couple married on Jun 19 1904 and Edmond was born on Dec 05 1904
They show the daughter Kate as older
James is not shown as a widower on the marriage certificate

There is a baptism of a Catherine Holmes on Dec 03 1899 (slightly older)
of Sullivan Square, Mallow
No father's name but mother was Ellen Holmes and sponsor Margaret Sullivan
I cannot see her civil birth records

Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: William Holmes
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 23 May 17 07:36 BST (UK) »

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Re: William Holmes
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 23 May 17 09:09 BST (UK) »
Thank you Dathai and My Luck. This has been extremely helpful. Dathai you gave me a link yesterday to civil records and mentioned that William of Fair Street might have the same parents. Looking at the link I can't see any mention of Fair Street and am wondering how you identified this entry as belonging to the Fair Street Holmes.
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Re: William Holmes
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 23 May 17 09:39 BST (UK) »

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Re: William Holmes
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 23 May 17 09:51 BST (UK) »
young Willie born 1898 had a twin Bridget for some unknown reason Bridgets maiden name is recorded as Gray
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1898/02090/1796985.pdf

Bridget the twin died age 3 and a half months
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1898/05817/4647076.pdf

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Re: William Holmes
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 23 May 17 10:06 BST (UK) »
I checked all the other births from the 1901 census and they all have Bridget Connor as mother

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Re: William Holmes
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 23 May 17 13:37 BST (UK) »
Quote from: dathai on Tuesday 23 May 17 10:06 BST (UK)
I checked all the other births from the 1901 census and they all have Bridget Connor as mother

Its interesting as the baptisms show O'connor for the first four children, Creagh for the twins Bridget & William and Gray for the other five!

1889 Ellen
1890 Mary
1892 Dan
1896 James

1894 Maggie

1898 Bridget d.Jun 05 1898
1898 William

1899 Michael d.Dec 13 1900
1902 Patrick
1906 John/Jack
1909 Christopher
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: William Holmes
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 23 May 17 15:09 BST (UK) »
Dont know what if any connection
Next door to William Holmes is James Gray living with the Bartons
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Mallow_North_Urban/Fair_Street/1130233/

James Barton married Annie Flynn 1899
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1900/10340/5764554.pdf

Annie Flynns parents seem to be the witnesses at William Holmes marriage
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Mallow_North_Urban/Fair_Street/1130244/

James Gray is living with the Flynn's in 1911 also as grandfather
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Mallow/Fair_Street/430692/

Mary Flynn's maiden name appears to be Connors
birth of daughter Theresa
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1895/02211/1834878.pdf

James Gray died 1915
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1915/05277/4465469.pdf
the informant was his daughter Mary Flynn
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