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Suggestions for mother's unusual name please
« on: Thursday 25 May 17 20:38 BST (UK) »
Hello Everyone,

I wonder if anyone can help me please.
Has anybody any idea what the mother's actual given name is on the Latinised version shown on the baptisms below - extracted from Lancs OPC.
There are more later births of children to this couple at St Albans in Blackburn -- with various mysterious spellings. I am showing just a sample of the Ribchester ones.



Baptism: 1 Jun 1799 St Peter and St Paul, Ribchester, Lancashire, England
Maria Railton - filia Roberti Railton & Slythi
    Godparents: Johannis Wilson; Catherina Wilson
    Register: Baptisms 1783 - 1805, Page 27, Entry 9
    Source: Original register at Lancashire Archives

Baptism: 31 May 1801 St Peter and St Paul, Ribchester, Lancashire, England
Johannes Railton - filius Roti. Railton & Sithae
    Godparents: Jacobus Rishton; Maria Racliff
    Register: Baptisms 1783 - 1805, Page 31, Entry 16
    Source: Original register at Lancashire Archives

Baptism: 2 Mar 1803 St Peter and St Paul, Ribchester, Lancashire, England
Maria Railton - filia Robti. Railton & Scythiae
    Godparents: Thas. Harwood; Margarta. Racliff
    Register: Baptisms 1783 - 1805, Page 34, Entry 6
    Source: Original register at Lancashire Archives

Baptism: 2 Jan 1804 St Peter and St Paul, Ribchester, Lancashire, England
Jacobus Railton - filius Robti. Railton & Sythine
    Godparents: Josephus Holden; Ellena Rishton
    Register: Baptisms 1783 - 1805, Page 36, Entry 3
    Source: Original register at Lancashire Archives


Interestingly a son of this couple goes on to name one of HIS sons 'Osyth' Railton. (he dies soon after as 'Osith'.

I can only think of Cynthia for the mother -- but I cannot find a marriage at the moment.

Thank you for any help or suggestions.
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Re: Suggestions for mother's unusual name pleas
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 25 May 17 21:19 BST (UK) »
There is marriage on 24th February 1784 in Easby, Yorkshire between Robert Railton and Syth Smith. Both are minors, marrying 'with consent of their respective mothers, their fathers being dead'. Witnesses are Thomas Corry and Elizabeth Smith.

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Re: Suggestions for mother's unusual name pleas
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 25 May 17 21:23 BST (UK) »
According to one site which gives meanings of names Sythine is a name. So maybe that one has been entered with the correct spelling

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Re: Suggestions for mother's unusual name pleas
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 25 May 17 21:25 BST (UK) »
Robert Railton and Syth Smith.

Apparently Syth was the name of a female saint http://www.rootschat.com/links/01k5d/
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Re: Suggestions for mother's unusual name pleas
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 25 May 17 21:58 BST (UK) »
I'd suggest that the variations of names you have quoted are various attempts to Latinise the name Syth and put it in the Genitive case  ( i.e. daughter/son of Syth)

You mention a son Osyth, this is mentioned in the link I provided earlier.
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Re: Suggestions for mother's unusual name pleas
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 25 May 17 22:06 BST (UK) »
You are absolute stars!

Thank you SO very much for your help -- I really appreciate it. As 'they' say -- everyday is a school day and you learn something new!

I'm thrilled to bits with what you have discovered.
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Re: Suggestions for mother's unusual name please
« Reply #6 on: Friday 26 May 17 08:46 BST (UK) »
Baptism: 2 Jan 1804 St Peter and St Paul, Ribchester, Lancashire, England
Jacobus Railton - filius Robti. Railton & Sythine
    Godparents: Josephus Holden; Ellena Rishton
    Register: Baptisms 1783 - 1805, Page 36, Entry 3
    Source: Original register at Lancashire Archives[/i]

It wold be interesting to see the original register for this example. It might perhaps show that the correct name is Sythiae (i.e. of Syth) rather than Sythine
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Re: Suggestions for mother's unusual name please
« Reply #7 on: Friday 26 May 17 09:20 BST (UK) »
There is a baptism in the Non Conformist Records for an Osythe Smith Feb 7  1765 Catterick RC - the daughter of Ralph and Elizabeth of Brumpton. A second record gives her first name as Sithe. (May not be your lady but it is the only one I can see).

Number of other Smith baptisms in Catterick RC in this period.

William
Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)

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Re: Suggestions for mother's unusual name please
« Reply #8 on: Friday 26 May 17 09:55 BST (UK) »
Thank you William.

I have just found the marriage in Easby mentioned by JenB. Very interesting.
If its the same person baptised -- it would make her a minor at her marriage - great possibility. Just a nuisance this family are RC.

In response to 'Sythine' -- rather reminds me of name of a medicine!
(I need a medicine researching this family!!)

many thanks again everyone -- great assistance as usual.
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