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Offline Ladyhawk

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Re: it's not a doddle finding the Dodd's in 1871!
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 27 May 17 19:31 BST (UK) »
Thank you, how incredibly frustrating!
Where on earth are they?
I thought we would of been on to a winner with the 1881 census & marriage!
Any clues on further avenues to look?

Yes it is frustrating  ??? - I'll keep checking - so at the moment it's only Elijah we have on 1881c
and Matthew's wife Jessie  :-\

Just in case anyone else is looking can I confirm this all of the Dodd family?

William Dodd           c1821 St John Chester Cheshire married 1843 Elizabeth Meacock various occ.
Elizabeth                 c1824 Hoole Cheshire (noted as widowed on 1891c with son Matthew & family)
Elijah                      c1845 Chester married 26/8/1871 Mary Montgomery
Kezia                      c1848 Chester
Matthew H(enry)      c1850 Hoole/Chester  - married 11/6/1880 Jessie Harrison
Alexander W(illiam)  c1853 Wolverhampton Staffordshire – 1881 married Jane Carruthers
(Alfred) John           c 1856 Wolverhampton – married 28 Sep 1881 Hannah Susannah Carruthers
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Re: it's not a doddle finding the Dodd's in 1871!
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 28 May 17 12:06 BST (UK) »
There does appear to be a Jane Dodd b 1841 but she never shows after so i'm guessing she died as an infant. I couldn't see elizabeth as a Meacock or Dodd on the 1841 census. Also Alexander William & Jane never seem to appear after their marriage in 1881!  This really is a peculiar family! 
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Re: it's not a doddle finding the Dodd's in 1871!
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 28 May 17 13:52 BST (UK) »
re AW Dodd & jane,
Have you searched birth indexes, shipping lists etc?
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Re: it's not a doddle finding the Dodd's in 1871!
« Reply #30 on: Monday 29 May 17 08:18 BST (UK) »
re AW Dodd & jane,
Have you searched birth indexes, shipping lists etc?
The birth indexes is a tricky one as there is another brother/carruthers marriage! tried shipping lists but no luck yet.
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Re: it's not a doddle finding the Dodd's in 1871!
« Reply #31 on: Monday 29 May 17 08:23 BST (UK) »
Nothing particularly tricksy about it.
Are all the Dodd-Carruthers births accounted for in census to AJ and Hannah Susannah?
Or in deaths?
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Re: it's not a doddle finding the Dodd's in 1871!
« Reply #33 on: Monday 29 May 17 16:26 BST (UK) »

12 March 1843 at St John's Chester

William Dodd 22 shoemaker, Seaville Street,
father John Dodd, labourer
Elizabeth Meacock, 19 1/4 , servant St John's Street,
father Thomas Meacock, coachman

witnesses John Cotgreave and Emma Ellis

by 1885 William has married Martha Ward

25 Jan 1886 St Augustine, Pendlebury, Lancashire

William Dodd - 59 Chemist Widower of Pendlebury
Martha Ward - 25 Domestic Servant Spinster of Pendlebury

Groom's Father: John Dodd, Labourer
Bride's Father: Henry Ward, Blacksmith.

& as seen Elizabeth is living with her son Matthew in 1891.

i actually think William is telling Porkies!

I wonder if the clues lie in 1881?


I can see the 1843 marriage cert. for William Dodd  to Elizabeth Meacock, both signed their names

Is that an initial E in front of William’s signature? - perhaps Elizabeth went to sign her name on the wrong line  :-\

The marriage details you transcribed for William Dodd occ Chemist to Martha Ward
Is this available to view on line?
If so, have you compared the two signatures of both William's to see if they differ?

Dau Jessie Dodd bn 1885 Lancashire and on the censuses with William Dodd, shoemaker & Martha –
I haven’t found her birth on GRO indexes showing mmn WARD,
 the only one I could find mmn RYE  ???
Jessie DODD, 1885  J Quarter in WEST DERBY  Volume 08B  Page 564
Have I missed something
   
Jessie Dodd married 1904 and father William's occ shoemaker
one of the witnesses is William Dodd (might be her father)

Does anyone see any similarities between these two signatures for William Dodd 1843/1904?

For info. one of the witnesses to William & Martha's marriage was a Boyd Allen, if this is
the correct person might be a connection with occupations

1881 census St Augustines Lodge  Lancashire Parish of Pendlebury
Boyd Allen age 60 born Waterford Ireland occ Appraiser Chemist
RG11; Piece: 3950; Folio: 64; Page: 13;

The above occ. was transcribed as Chemist but on 1901 census
St Augustines Lodge, 376, Bolton Road, Pendleton
Boyd Allen is retired Apparitor (Church Off.)
RG13 Piece 3720 Folio   168  Page   27


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Re: it's not a doddle finding the Dodd's in 1871!
« Reply #34 on: Monday 29 May 17 19:05 BST (UK) »
Another chemist connection!
The Martha William marriage was a transcription found at http://www.lan-opc.org.uk  I have not found on line images of the wedding certificate.
William was quite elderly by the time Jessie married so i have always put that down to the shaky handwriting.

I have a feeling that Jessie Dodd was registered as  Jessie WARD 1884 Q 4 Salford 8d 65 she was born before they married.
It's another certificate on an ever growing list to buy.

If i could figure out which church he preached at that could give me another avenue to look at.
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Re: it's not a doddle finding the Dodd's in 1871!
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 30 May 17 17:07 BST (UK) »
Nothing particularly tricksy about it.
Are all the Dodd-Carruthers births accounted for in census to AJ and Hannah Susannah?
Or in deaths?
All births relate to John & Hannah.

There is a shipping list for an Mr A W Dodd & Mr A W Dodd jnr but really it gives nothing that i can go on, but i'm not so good with shipping lists.
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?ti=5538&indiv=try&db=bt26&h=15241838
Byrne, Butterfield, Gilbert, Sutcliffe, Furey, Alderson, Warham, to name a few!