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Re: Tarver Squad RASC Nov 1940
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 06 December 17 22:40 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I'll get it uploaded there's no names on the back so any help identifying individuals would be great. Also if you have any other info on this squad/unit, it would be very much appreciated. From other documents we've found we know that two family members served in the forces but not sure if one or both were part of 'Tarver 2'. Now going through other records to try and piece more together on a Sergeant Ellis Newsome and a Robert Gascoigne. Neither name is included in the photo already on this thread so still trying to work out how it all fits together......

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Re: Tarver Squad RASC Nov 1940
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 07 December 17 09:38 GMT (UK) »
 2 Tarver Squad may either be the second of the year in 1941 or the numbers may have required two squads training together.  Whatever, that element is not of any importance, the first photo is of men in training with the RASC, I shall be most surprised if the other is something different entirely!

As Brewins girl's posts above show, starting in the RASC is no guarantee of ending up there unfortunately.  Only sure way is to apply for the service records of those of interest.

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Re: Tarver Squad RASC Nov 1940
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 10 December 17 18:23 GMT (UK) »
AS you say MaxD, it is a good thing to apply for the service records. I have done that with my Uncle (the subject of this thread) and also with my father who was in the the RAF, and in both cases have had these interpreted as the jargon and abbreviations make reading a record difficult. I do recall you offering to interpret my uncle's service record so would advise kelmcfrin to pursue this.
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Re: Tarver Squad RASC Nov 1940
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 10 December 17 18:51 GMT (UK) »
Brewins girl - Just back tracking a bit, we didn't establish exactly what RASC training unit Tarver Squad was part of.  From the date of the photo, we should be able to establish that from your uncle's records.  Could you have a look?

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Re: Tarver Squad RASC Nov 1940
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 10 December 17 19:55 GMT (UK) »
I'll have a look tomorrow
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Re: Tarver Squad RASC Nov 1940
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 06 January 18 16:00 GMT (UK) »
MaxD - I'm sorry I've taken so long to respond to you request for more info about the RASC/Tarver Squad (10 Dec I said i'd "look tomorrow" - but 'tomorrow' never comes!)

So, from Ron's Service Record:-

 Date: 31.10.40
Unit: Det. RAPC Exeter.
Record of casualties etc Comp[ulosrily transferred to Royal Army Service Corps on Posted to No 12 Training Battalion (Supply) Aldershot
Place of casualty: Exeter

Date: 29.11.40
Unit: H Hldng STW
Record of casualties etc: TOS from Ten Cy No 12 Trng Bn (Supply) Aldershot.

I hope this helps
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Re: Tarver Squad RASC Nov 1940
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 06 January 18 16:01 GMT (UK) »
kelmcfrin - have you been able to scan the photograph of Tarver Squad ?
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Re: Tarver Squad RASC Nov 1940
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 06 January 18 17:20 GMT (UK) »
Those two casualties (means occurrences in army speak) record his compulsory transfer from the Pay Corps to the RASC and then to 12 Training Battalion (Supply) Aldershot.  There he is first in H Holding Company (waiting for enough men to form a training squad) in the Specialist Training Wing.

It is possible that this unlocks the mystery of Tarver Squad which I would wager was, as said, what the training squads were called in that part of the 12 Training Battalion and the next step after the holding company.  I wouldn't expect to see a casualty entry for it as he is still in the same unit.  The date (and the date of the casualty is when the record was made not when it happened) links with date on the photo.

Wild guess is that the next significant casualty is his move from 12 Trg Bn to a service unit??

Hope was that we would find the instructors at least on the later Tarver squad pic.

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Re: Tarver Squad RASC Nov 1940
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 06 January 18 17:28 GMT (UK) »
The next casualty (yes, I had worked out that the word was 'army speak' for 'occurrences', but it did puzzle me for a while) was dated 4.1.41 Posted to HQ Holding Coy Military Trng Wing No 12 Trng Bn (Supply) RASC; 4.1.41 TOS from Specialists Wing; Granted Embarkation leave 4-11/1/41 but he was then admitted to Botleys Park War Hospital 23.1.41 so didn't embark, then posted to 'Y' list 13.2.41
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