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Burston - utterly confused.
« on: Friday 26 May 17 19:40 BST (UK) »
Evening all

I have been trying to connect a couple of Burstons, and am getting more and more confused as time goes on.

My husbands grandmother had a child, I've never been able to find a marriage between her and the child's father. The child was born in Ireland and is still alive. I've not been able to find a death for the father, although he looks to have been born in 1911, so I'm not sure whether I can give his name

My husband has told me that a family friend was also a Burston before she married. Her father, one Clifford Burston, is on the 1911 census  with father George (birth registered 1882 in Martley) a sister and mother who was transcribed as Maise. According  to this they married in about 1906.

Looking at Clifford and sisters birth registrations on GRO gives a mothers maiden name of Harper. There's a 1906 marriage for a Mary Daisy Harper in 1906 in Martley Reg district, but the bridegroom is Roland Burston! Roland? Who on earth is Roland? Where did he come from? He appears to be George's brother b 1888, but I do not know why he has apparently metamorphosed into George by 1911. The family are in Gloucestershire at this point

Family search has a Roland Burston immigrating in Queensland, Australia in 1912. Did he do a runner for some reason and George stepped in?

And I still don't know where my husbands grandmothers child's father fits into the picture. They seemingly don't share a mother. There's a birth for this Burston in Newent, Gloucestershire in 1911,but mmn is different.

Both Clifford and t'other Burston are in the same household in Thornbury, Gloucestershire in 1939.

If anyone could help me tease this puzzle out, I'd be so thankful

Thanks
Lisa
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland: Gilligan/Wall/Meagher/Maher/Gray/O'Hara
Bristol: Woodman/James/Derrick
Bristol/Somerset: Saunders/Wilmot
Gloucestershire:Woodman/Mathews/Tandy/Stinchcombe/Marten/Thompson
Wiltshire: Mathews
Carmarthen: Thomas, Davies, Lewis, Humphreys, Williams, Jenkins

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Re: Burston - utterly confused.
« Reply #1 on: Friday 26 May 17 22:43 BST (UK) »
So the child born to your husband's grandmother born in Ireland had a father born 1911 in Newent.
I can't find a death record for him but I can see his marriage in 1931, age 20 where it names his father as George Burston.

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Re: Burston - utterly confused.
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 27 May 17 07:23 BST (UK) »
I need to get the Newent birth certificate, only started looking at this on Thursday night.

Yes, have just had a look at that marriage, It is not to my husbands grandmother though - this is a different lady. One of the witnesses is Clifford.  There has to be some connection between himand the other gent, although quite what, I can't find.
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland: Gilligan/Wall/Meagher/Maher/Gray/O'Hara
Bristol: Woodman/James/Derrick
Bristol/Somerset: Saunders/Wilmot
Gloucestershire:Woodman/Mathews/Tandy/Stinchcombe/Marten/Thompson
Wiltshire: Mathews
Carmarthen: Thomas, Davies, Lewis, Humphreys, Williams, Jenkins

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Re: Burston - utterly confused.
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 24 October 17 20:32 BST (UK) »
Just bringing this back again. still utterly confused.

I've obtained the Newent birth from the GRO, this shows a birth date of 27th Sept 1911, father Herbert George Burston and mother May, formerly Wilson.

1939 register gives his birthdate as 27th Sep 1912.

But again, how this all fits together with Clifford, I still can't puzzle out. The family friend mentioned previously says that Clifford and the chap whose birth is registered in Newent were brothers, but that can't be possible, can it?
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland: Gilligan/Wall/Meagher/Maher/Gray/O'Hara
Bristol: Woodman/James/Derrick
Bristol/Somerset: Saunders/Wilmot
Gloucestershire:Woodman/Mathews/Tandy/Stinchcombe/Marten/Thompson
Wiltshire: Mathews
Carmarthen: Thomas, Davies, Lewis, Humphreys, Williams, Jenkins

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Re: Burston - utterly confused.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 24 October 17 23:13 BST (UK) »
Have you found the birth and death for Mary Daisy Harper/Burston?

 'There's a 1906 marriage for a Mary Daisy Harper in 1906 in Martley Reg district,'

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Daisy May Harper born 1888 Upton?

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 24 October 17 23:52 BST (UK) »
There is also this Burston/Wilson birth, wonder where that ties in (or not)?

Births September quarter 1913
 Phyllis I Burston  mmn Wilson    Bedwellty    11a   237   

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Re: Burston - utterly confused.
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 24 October 17 23:59 BST (UK) »
Phyllis Burston goes to Canada in 1930 via Salvation Army. Mother is May,(something crossed out) Mrs Burston, Pillers Green, Gorse near Gloucester.

Might be a maid in Vancouver in 1935

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Possibly dies as Phyllis Nuttall in 1986 in Victoria, British Columbia

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Re: Burston - utterly confused.
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 25 October 17 06:56 BST (UK) »
'1906 marriage for a Mary Daisy Harper in 1906 in Martley Reg district, but the bridegroom is Roland Burston! Roland? Who on earth is Roland? Where did he come from? He appears to be George's brother b 1888,'

Who is Roland's Father on the marriage certificate, and how old is Roland?

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 25 October 17 07:20 BST (UK) »
At least certs are a bit cheaper just now!

Roland b1888 according to GRO, mmn Wall. A Thomas Burston married twice, first to Jane Wall, second to Florence Mobberley (spelling can vary a bit)

Gorse may well be significant - my mysterious chap (I haven't found a definite death for him, although as he appears on the 1939 register I presume he is dead, so can I give his name?) gives Gorse or Corse as his place of residence for his marriage (to another lady, not my husbands grandmother). Sorry, this is all so confusing.

I found a ships list, SS Rippingham Grange, last night, with a Rowland Burston aged 23, place of origin Worcs., leaving London for Queensland. I am presuming he did indeed leave his young family.
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland: Gilligan/Wall/Meagher/Maher/Gray/O'Hara
Bristol: Woodman/James/Derrick
Bristol/Somerset: Saunders/Wilmot
Gloucestershire:Woodman/Mathews/Tandy/Stinchcombe/Marten/Thompson
Wiltshire: Mathews
Carmarthen: Thomas, Davies, Lewis, Humphreys, Williams, Jenkins