Marchioness Mail Ship-Melbourne to Nelson to Wellington Passengers Help Please

[Lucy2]

The following link has burials for Mount Street Roman Catholic Cemetery in Wellington :

http://www.mountstreetcemetery.org.nz/dox/Copy%20of%20Burial%20list%20-%20updated%20to%20website%20130530.pdf

Indexed as MAHER  /  MEAGHER :

[Noticed there is a burial for a Richard MAHER who appears to be eldest son of Patick and Mary - further details to come - he apparently died at the home of his brother-in-law ? ]

Hannah BIDDLE (and an infant daughter also buried there.)

    ~  Lu

[marsbar60]

Thank you for your help, have you looked at Michael's Probate here:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9LW-PYBS?i=222&cc=1865481

He has bequests for his 4 nieces:

Thomas's daughter: Sister Mary Vincent and two other nuns:

Sister Cortona of St Joseph's Convent , Manly Sydney
and
Sister Mary of the Sisters of Mercy in Colombo St in Christchurch
and
Annie Cooney

I need to connect them somehow to Michael's other siblings.

[Lucy2]

Thank you for your help, have you looked at Michael's Probate here:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9LW-PYBS?i=222&cc=1865481

He has bequests for his 4 nieces:

Thomas's daughter: Sister Mary Vincent and two other nuns:

I need to connect them somehow to Michael's other siblings.

Yes I have viewed it, but, I don't always have time to have a very thorough look (hence earlier missing the apparent birth year for Thomas MEAGHER given by brother Michael in the Probate record.  Expect that info I post, will be looked into further by the person/persons I am endeavouring to assist.  )

Thomas' daughter, Sister Mary Vincent, was mentioned as living in Perth, Western Australia, wasn't she ... in the Probate file of Thomas MEAGHER ??
I will check that though just to make sure I have the correct person.

    ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

You need to re-read the Probate file for Thomas MEAGHER.  

All the information is quite clearly set out I believe, stating the relationships within this family (and you've made mention of them yourself, earlier in this thread).

Start with the affidavit of James MEAGHER (son of Thomas) at Image no. 340 (- you can go back and forwards using the arrows top left of page to search for info.)

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L92R-H55F?i=339&cc=1865481

Image no. 341 >... James speaks of his sibling Mary MEAGHER and confirms her religious name as Sister Mary Vincent.    Later there are letters - one I think from the Passionates Order ?  in Buenos Aires written to Sister Mary Vincent.

Also an affidavit from ?? (can't recall) ... stating that Thomas used surname spelled as "MEAGHER" whilst his brother Michael was known as MAHER (even though in one part James refers to his father's brother as Michael MEAGHER ).  It's all there.   

   ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

The following link has burials for Mount Street Roman Catholic Cemetery in Wellington :

http://www.mountstreetcemetery.org.nz/dox/Copy%20of%20Burial%20list%20-%20updated%20to%20website%20130530.pdf

Indexed as MAHER  /  MEAGHER :

[Noticed there is a burial for a Richard MAHER who appears to be eldest son of Patrick and Mary - further details to come - he apparently died at the home of his brother-in-law ? ]
 

Re:  Richard MAHER - mentioned above:      Can now rule out this man as being the son of Patrick and Mary MAHER even though he was close in age to their Richard.
The above apparently hailed from Templemore, Tipperary and his background is covered at the following link of persons buried at Mount Street Cemetery.

http://www.familytreecircles.com/the-residents-of-mount-street-cemetery-wellington-from-1841-ma-mc-names-48482.html

   ~ Lu

[Lucy2]

Thank you for your help, have you looked at Michael's Probate here:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9LW-PYBS?i=222&cc=1865481

He has bequests for his 4 nieces:

Thomas's daughter: Sister Mary Vincent and two other nuns:

Sister Cortona of St Joseph's Convent , Manly Sydney
and
Sister Mary of the Sisters of Mercy in Colombo St in Christchurch
and

Annie Cooney

I need to connect them somehow to Michael's other siblings.

Always "good form" to quote exactly what is given in the document.      
In this case the niece is recorded in Will as "Annie COONEY, wife of John COONEY of the of City Wellington,  Returned Soldier "....

Seems this Annie is actually "Agnes BIDDLE" (daughter of the aforementioned Hannah BIDDLE (nee MEAGHER) a.k.a. Johanna BIDDLE ).

NZ Marriage Index

Agnes BIDDLE - John COONEY - Marriage year:  1907

Agnes and John COONEY appear to be the parents of the 19-year-old Noel COONEY (Noel Francis COONEY) who was buried (1934) at Mount Street Cemetery with Patrick, Mary and John MAHER.
[Refer to post earlier in this thread. ]

    ~   Lu

[marsbar60]

Don't worry ... here's the link >

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L92R-HRW7?mode=g&i=348&cc=1865481

Sorry ... yes, I missed it (very long Probate and a good deal of information to be taken in. )

Of course, Michael MAHER is only estimating his brother's age (about 60 years)  ... and 1839 isn't too far removed from 1842 (his approx. birth year on arrival in Melbourne and NZ.)

     ~  Lu

I think this needs to be verified. I don't understand why you think his brother Michael would get Thomas's birth date wrong by 3 years, especially in an affadavit. You can see in the last letter that Thomas wrote to him from Buenos Aires that they were close, it doesn't make sense

Perhaps we could go back to the Irish birth records for Killenaule County Tipperary for verification?

[Whenu]

Maher Place in Poriria, just down the road from Takapu Road.

http://www.pcc.govt.nz/About-Porirua/Porirua-s-heritage/Porirua-s-suburbs/East-Porirua/East-Porirua-Signpost-Stories#Porirua%20East

[marsbar60]

Maher Place in Poriria, just down the road from Takapu Road.

http://www.pcc.govt.nz/About-Porirua/Porirua-s-heritage/Porirua-s-suburbs/East-Porirua/East-Porirua-Signpost-Stories#Porirua%20East

Thank you Whenu. I found that myself a few months ago. A kind lady(Ruth Barrett) at Porirua City Council has been helping me find all the land that my great great grandfather Thomas Meagher had there, he leased it to his son Tom Maher when he went to Buenos Aires in 1899. Maher Place is name after Tom Maher. She also helped with other information. I found out that Tom Maher was a bit of a recluse. I think I will need to go to the Wellington archives to find more stories and photos of our Porirua heritage. I only have one blurred photo of Tom Maher, he was a gaint, well over 6 feet tall as was his brother James(my great grandfather), they said Tom would always ride around on a draft horse. His brothers John and and Joseph were policeman. John was one of the first constables at Taumarunui, and Joseph settled there too.