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Which Joseph married Ann Powis?
« on: Monday 29 May 17 14:52 BST (UK) »
My 6x gr grandfather Joseph Fletcher married Ann Powis ( baptised 26 Dec 1701 at Little Wenlock) 14 Apr 1723 at Little Wenlock.There are two Josephs. Some people have taken one and some the other. Trouble is which is the correct Joseph - the one baptised Little Wenlock 22 Aug 1701 with parents George and Mary Woodroffe or the one baptised Little Wenlock 13 Feb 1704 with parents Thomas and Mary?
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Re: Which Joseph married Ann Powis?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 December 21 16:54 GMT (UK) »
Hello to you Brushbroomstick,

We too are descendants of the Joseph Fletcher who married Ann Powis. Thereafter and up to date the records are clear and the family line directly traceable through the BMDs up to today. As you say its the generations before Joseph and Ann that are problematic. I suspect that Thomas and George are brothers or cousins and equally possibly the father of Joseph. But they are still 'family' and if you are working back in time then they are both from the same immediate family. I have been chasing the same line for sometime now and did hand search (online) each and every page of the Little Wenlock parish records for that time frame. In fact there are not many Fletchers there and the settlement is not that big. The parish register is quite well preserved as I am sure you know already.The family are Ropiers and this is directly mentioned under Little Wenlocks entry in British History online. The family I have are not originally from Little Wenlock. They are displaced during the English Civil War and are in Sutton Coldfield according to my research. Originally I have the family coming from Lapworth, displaced during the Civil War John Fletcher (being the father of George and Thomas Fletcher). Because the Civil War period is so difficult I pursued double tactics. Firstly I tackled the matter by looking at lineage (george son of........ etc and dates). Then I checked my findings by casting the net really wide and looking at all Fletchers for each time frame gradually reducing the the likely fits by dates, location so on and so forth. It has taken over five years but in the end I have the 'Best Fit' for the Civil War years and earlier. It might be all I can get but I can't help noticing that the settlement populations are really quite small and with only a handful of Fletchers which probably means that they are siblings or cousins (using the Consanguinity table).

I sincerely hope that the above ramblings are of help to you and wish you well with your research.

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Re: Which Joseph married Ann Powis?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 04 December 21 08:16 GMT (UK) »
You do have a problem - as the only info you will get are from other trees - but how do you know if they are correct ?
anyway - this tree says George Fletcher and Mary Woodroffe were Josephs parents

https://gw.geneanet.org/wsmith61?n=powis&oc=&p=ann
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Which Joseph married Ann Powis?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 04 December 21 09:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

According to Ancestry records - the wife of Joseph (Ann) was buried 13 Jan 1750 at Little Wenlock - religion Anglican. They do not have an image of the records so her age is not shown but records show Page 2 Reference P165/A/1/2.

I wondered if Shropshire Archives may have more records for St Lawrence Church as the burials microfiche seems to date from 1689- 2002.

Possibly her husband Joseph (referred to as Joseph The Elder?) seems to have been buried  4 Feb 1759 with a film number 1894978 and reference  Item 4 P16. Family Search suggest the birth associated to this particular death was in 1701

Hope this is of some help

Alan


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Re: Which Joseph married Ann Powis?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 04 December 21 11:23 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for this Info which I will certainly follow up.

Irene
Broom(e) - Staffs/Shropshire/ Durham
Burnett - Northumberland & Scottish Borders
Dickson - Scottish Borders/ Northumberland
Henry - Londonderry/ Durham
Morrell - Shropshire
Neale - Norfolk/Northumberland
Powell - Shropshire
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Stott - Northumberland/Durham
Taylor- Holy Island/Bedlington
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Vickers- Cumberland/ Durham

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Re: Which Joseph married Ann Powis?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 04 December 21 11:40 GMT (UK) »
Image on FindMyPast -
Ann -the wife of Joseph Fletcher the Ro..(?) was buried January 13th

ADDED After the burial mentioned by Tall Al for Joseph the elder it has in brackets what looks like Ropier.  The word I can't read on Ann's was 3 o 4 letters long
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Re: Which Joseph married Ann Powis?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 04 December 21 11:47 GMT (UK) »
Thank you to all of you who have taken time to look up this information for me.

Regards, Irene
Broom(e) - Staffs/Shropshire/ Durham
Burnett - Northumberland & Scottish Borders
Dickson - Scottish Borders/ Northumberland
Henry - Londonderry/ Durham
Morrell - Shropshire
Neale - Norfolk/Northumberland
Powell - Shropshire
Robson - Northumberland/Durham
Stott - Northumberland/Durham
Taylor- Holy Island/Bedlington
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Vickers- Cumberland/ Durham

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Re: Which Joseph married Ann Powis?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 04 December 21 11:52 GMT (UK) »
I should add that there are no age at deaths on the burial information that I can see.  Any supposition by Ancestry as to when they were born may have been obtained by them from a members tree on their site which as we all know can be wrong.
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Re: Which Joseph married Ann Powis?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 04 December 21 11:56 GMT (UK) »
Yes Rosie I have found this in the past with records on Ancestry.
I usually try all other records before I commit to entering the information in my tree.
Quite often the information in other trees is at best impossible.

Irene 
Broom(e) - Staffs/Shropshire/ Durham
Burnett - Northumberland & Scottish Borders
Dickson - Scottish Borders/ Northumberland
Henry - Londonderry/ Durham
Morrell - Shropshire
Neale - Norfolk/Northumberland
Powell - Shropshire
Robson - Northumberland/Durham
Stott - Northumberland/Durham
Taylor- Holy Island/Bedlington
Vass- Inverness/ Newcastle/ Durham
Vickers- Cumberland/ Durham