Frederick L Oliver - 1911 - Strange parental situation.

[Tim Brayshaw]

I'm trying to push this family back a generation or two, and seem to have hit a brick wall already.

I have;

Frederick L Oliver
Born on 01 January 1911 in Sculcoates, East Yorkshire.

On the 1911 census he is incorrectly transcribed as 'Frederc R Oliver', but on the 1911 census record it is clear it says Frederick Oliver. Now his mother is just confusing.

At first glance he looks like an illegitimate son of Nellie E Oliver who is living with another family...but the 1911 census shows Nellie E Oliver being married for 1 year with no husband present.

I can not find any evidence of this, and was wondering if she just pretended she was married because of the illegitimate son; and she had been thrown out of her family home or something?

Can anyone help shed any light on this?

Many Thanks!

[ShaunJ]

Per the GRO:

Frederick Ledger Oliver born Sculcoates Q1 1911 (vol 9D page 210), mother's maiden name Nelson

[keyboard86]

Hi a Frederick Ledger Oliver married possibly an Annie Elizabeth Nelson December qtr 1901 Sculcoates?
Keyboard86

[crisane]

Marriage FreeBMD Names on the same page
Fredrick Ledger Oliver and Annie Elizabeth Nelson Dec 1/4 1901 registration district Sculcoates vol 9d page 370

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[Tim Brayshaw]

Thankyou for all of your replies so quickly.

Is the Nellie E Oliver, married for 1 year at 18 year old a misleading entry then? If she is the parent of 4 month old Frederick...she couldn't really have been married in 1901.

[crisane]

I think you need to look at the 1911 census where the Frederick born 1911 is living with his parents and siblings Leave out the middle initial for both father and son. I found it by putting in Frederick Oliver born Yorkshire, no date of birth and spouse Elizabeth.
The boarders name will clinch it being the couple married in 1901

[Bee]

According to Yorkshirebmd the 1901 marriage of Annie E Nelson to Frederick L Oliver took place at St Paul's church in Hull, and the marriage cert is available to view if you have a sub for Findmypast.

[Tim Brayshaw]

I think you need to look at the 1911 census where the Frederick born 1911 is living with his parents and siblings Leave out the middle initial for both father and son. I found it by putting in Frederick Oliver born Yorkshire, no date of birth and spouse Elizabeth.

I'm viewing the 1911 census with Frederick Oliver born 1911 with a completely different family?

[crisane]

There is a Frederick Oliver birth March 1/4 Hull mmn Cartlidge which matches with the family Nellie is with in 1911 census you have.