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Ostle conundrum
« on: Tuesday 30 May 17 18:54 BST (UK) »
I am looking for parents of Thomas Ostle (can also be Ostell/Ostel) he was born in 1851 Longtown reg. he is living with his mother Isabella in Cumrew in 1861, with siblings plus  children with Little surname, Isabella is married to Jonathan Ostle who is working as a servant at Chapel House, Talkin. Their children Thomas 1851, Christopher 1853, Mary Jane 1856, William 1858 & Margaret 1862 all have the mother's maiden name as Little according to gov reg site. The only marriage I can find for Jonathan Ostle is a marriage to a Isabella Hunter, there obviously was a marriage between an Ostle & Hunter because there are children Joseph, Robert, Jane & hannah whose mother's maiden name is Hunter. By 1871 Jonathan appears to be working at Netherton, Talkin for the Dobson Family, also working there is son Christopher. Mary Jane, William & Margaret now live at Ringate, Hayton but their mother is now Elizabeth, confused I certainly am. I cannot find Thomas but he married Mary Palmer in 1872.
Can anyone help with this?
I am sure Isabella's surname must be Little.
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Re: Ostle conundrum
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 30 May 17 19:16 BST (UK) »
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I am sure Isabella's surname must be Little
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Given the presence of Little children in household - have you considered that Isabella may have been previously married?

Have you found any birth entry for any of the Little's to check mmn? 
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Re: Ostle conundrum
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 30 May 17 19:25 BST (UK) »
Marrriage of Isabella Hunter, father - Adam Bell
2 Aug 1845,Holme-Cultram, Cumberland, England
Spouse - Jonathan Ostle

Therefore this Isabella was a widow (had hoped her father would have the surname Little). So not the correct marriage  ???

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Re: Ostle conundrum
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 30 May 17 19:27 BST (UK) »
I am looking for parents of Thomas Ostle (can also be Ostell/Ostel) he was born in 1851 Longtown reg. he is living with his mother Isabella in Cumrew in 1861, with siblings plus  children with Little

What is the relationship to 'head' given for the 'Little' children on the census & who is listed as 'head'?

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Re: Ostle conundrum
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 30 May 17 19:32 BST (UK) »
The Little's are shown as boarders - not as children or other relative to Isabella

Isabella is shown as head (wife)
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Re: Ostle conundrum
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 30 May 17 19:34 BST (UK) »
Hi would I be correct that Isabella shows a pob as Arturett/Arthurett in 1861 and aged 38, a married Isabella Ostley 30 occ Labourers wife is with a William Beattie and family in Westlinton, Longtown in 1851
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Re: Ostle conundrum
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 30 May 17 19:37 BST (UK) »
In 1851 there is another Isabella and Jonathan Ostle but they were in the Wigton RD

  HO107 Piece 2433 Folio 10 Page 13
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Re: Ostle conundrum
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 30 May 17 19:41 BST (UK) »
Ancestry tree shows parents of Isabella Little as Christopher Little and Jane Nixon.
Christopher and Jane married 8 February 1807 Arthuret Cumberland.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXVP-RHS

This couple appear on the 1841 census Arthuret Longtown Cumberland. Census shown on family search is a little mixed up  ::)

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M73F-VDN


Christopher Little 60  - Jane Little 60  - Isabella Little 20

No source for marriage to Jonathan Ostle.

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Re: Ostle conundrum
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 30 May 17 19:44 BST (UK) »
On the 1861 the John Little aged 14 b. Arthuret, Cumberland, is recorded as son.

Baptism -

John Little
Baptism - 11 Apr 1847, Arthuret, Cumberland
Mother - Isabella Little

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