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Re: CARNEY FAMILY
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 03 April 18 21:00 BST (UK) »
Eileen:  Why that's fantastic!  How in the world did you find it?  It appears to come out in French and lists the last name as Hamilton for Robert, Anne and Alfred...

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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 03 April 18 23:02 BST (UK) »
Looked for the Duffy baptism above it.  Still don't really know what the surname should be, but the indexed entry as Hamilton is incorrect, as the format is name of child with surname, son of father's name and mother (with maiden name).

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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 04 April 18 09:27 BST (UK) »
Here's the whole page for others to review.  I can't upload as the file is too big:

https://www.ancestry.ca/interactive/61039/05591_01_0053/6906423?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.ca%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dIrelandCatholicParish%26gss%3dsfs28_ms_r_db%26new%3d1%26rank%3d1%26MS_AdvCB%3d1%26gsfn%3dfran*%26gsfn_x%3d1%26gsln%3dduffy%26gsln_x%3d1%26msbdy%3d1848%26msbdy_x%3d1%26MSAV%3d2%26uidh%3d1gg%26msbdp%3d2&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

Which can only be seen with a subscription to Ancestry- parish registers free here-
https://registers.nli.ie/
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: CARNEY FAMILY
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 04 April 18 10:03 BST (UK) »
There was indeed a couple called Robert Kearney and Anne Hamilton having children baptised in Armagh RC parish in the era, for comparison note:

- James baptised 3 June 1844 (left page, 4th entry down):
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632475#page/11/mode/1up

- Frederick baptised 14 September 1845 (left page, 11th entry down):
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632475#page/28/mode/1up

The couple's marriage on 6 December 1843 (left page, bottom entry):
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632474#page/28/mode/1up



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Re: CARNEY FAMILY
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 05 April 18 19:03 BST (UK) »
Gaffy,

Thank you for the links!  The interesting thing is, Alfred's second child was named Frederick as his first was named, Alfred, after himself, or so I think.  I don't believe Frederick is a common name is it?  Unfortunately Alfred's son, Frederick died as a baby in 1879.

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Re: CARNEY FAMILY
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 05 April 18 22:49 BST (UK) »
Yes, Alfred and Frederick were a lot less common than James, John, William etc. - a quick search of the forename on the 1901 or 1911 Ireland census will give you a flavour of that.

Armed with the knowledge that a Robert Kearney and Ann Hamilton were married and having other children in that era and locale, 'seeing' Kearney in your extract isn't too far a leap - the elaborate flourish of the letter 'G' above confuses the top of 'K', the leg of the 'K' is disjointed and the remaining letters are poorly formed, especially the 'r', but Kearney is a definite contender.